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nator
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Message 259 of 270 (13576)
07-15-2002 2:42 PM
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07-10-2002 9:05 PM



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Jet
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Message 260 of 270 (25075)
11-30-2002 4:19 PM
Reply to: Message 253 by edge
07-04-2002 11:13 AM


After quite a long absense, it is refreshing to see that the typical response of the Evo diehards has not changed. "Evolution Revolution!" If nothing else, one has gotta love the chaos involved in this bankrupt theory, not to mention the diehards who are unwilling to allow their thought process to evolve along with the reality that this unscientific theory cannot evolve fast enough to keep up with the times. However, the same must be said of many of the creationists, whether YEC or OEC. Once a dogmatic position has been taken, few are willing to open their minds to new concepts, let alone the reality that Truth is an undeniable, unchangeable, and immoveable force that refuses to yield. And the beat goes on.......

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edge
Member (Idle past 1734 days)
Posts: 4696
From: Colorado, USA
Joined: 01-09-2002


Message 261 of 270 (25077)
11-30-2002 4:24 PM
Reply to: Message 260 by Jet
11-30-2002 4:19 PM


quote:
Originally posted by Jet:
After quite a long absense, it is refreshing to see that the typical response of the Evo diehards has not changed. "Evolution Revolution!" If nothing else, one has gotta love the chaos involved in this bankrupt theory, not to mention the diehards who are unwilling to allow their thought process to evolve along with the reality that this unscientific theory cannot evolve fast enough to keep up with the times. However, the same must be said of many of the creationists, whether YEC or OEC. Once a dogmatic position has been taken, few are willing to open their minds to new concepts, let alone the reality that Truth is an undeniable, unchangeable, and immoveable force that refuses to yield. And the beat goes on.......
I am so glad that you have moved to the middle of the road.

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John
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Message 262 of 270 (25079)
11-30-2002 4:27 PM
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11-30-2002 4:24 PM


quote:
Originally posted by edge:
I am so glad that you have moved to the middle of the road.
Jet, why not share your position with us?
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No webpage found at provided URL: www.hells-handmaiden.com

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nator
Member (Idle past 2197 days)
Posts: 12961
From: Ann Arbor
Joined: 12-09-2001


Message 263 of 270 (25134)
12-01-2002 10:23 AM
Reply to: Message 260 by Jet
11-30-2002 4:19 PM


Hey there, Jet,
How is the research going?
Tell me, is it still all hush-hush or are the findings and research you have been helping with publicized yet?
My offer to provide an address so you can send me some information on your institute still stands. I'll even enclose a sase so it won't cost you more than the paper and printer ink.
Thanks.
PS You might want to check out the "Jet Retrospective" in the Free For All or Coffee House forums. It highlighs some of your more charming and level-headed insights and quips.
Let's see how long it takes for you to be suspended this time around.
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"We will still have perfect freedom to hold contrary views of our own, but to simply
close our minds to the knowledge painstakingly accumulated by hundreds of thousands
of scientists over long centuries is to deliberately decide to be ignorant and narrow-
minded."
-Steve Allen, from "Dumbth"

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Jet
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Message 264 of 270 (25262)
12-02-2002 12:09 PM
Reply to: Message 263 by nator
12-01-2002 10:23 AM


Hi Sweetie,
Still a Steve Allen groupie I see! Oh well, some people are slow to accept 21st century thinking. Still love you though! Bye for now dearie!
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As we survey all the evidence, the thought insistently arises that some supernatural agency - or, rather, Agency - must be involved. Is it possible that suddenly, without intending to, we have stumbled upon scientific proof of the existence of a Supreme Being? Was it God who stepped in and so providentially crafted the cosmos for our benefit?
Prof. George Greenstein

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Message 265 of 270 (25265)
12-02-2002 12:30 PM
Reply to: Message 264 by Jet
12-02-2002 12:09 PM


Hi Jet, welcome back!
Rule 3 of the Forum Guidelines requests that EvC Forum members treat their fellow members with respect and remain dispassionate during discussion. This allows debate to focus on the issues and keeps personalities from becoming an issue. I'm sure you can see the value in this.
Glad to see you back at EvC Forum!
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--EvC Forum Administrator

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Jet
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Message 266 of 270 (25274)
12-02-2002 12:53 PM
Reply to: Message 265 by Admin
12-02-2002 12:30 PM


My most sincere apologies to anyone offended by my sardonic style, and this includes Ms. Schraf! Glad to be back, if only for the entertainment!
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As we survey all the evidence, the thought insistently arises that some supernatural agency - or, rather, Agency - must be involved. Is it possible that suddenly, without intending to, we have stumbled upon scientific proof of the existence of a Supreme Being? Was it God who stepped in and so providentially crafted the cosmos for our benefit?
Prof. George Greenstein

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Jet
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Message 267 of 270 (25280)
12-02-2002 1:28 PM


Reposted from: Is It Science?
A Christian (and creationist)'s condemnation of "Creation Science"
Message #42
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[Copy of message 42 from other thread deleted. If you'd like a reply to a post in another thread it is sufficient to request it. You have replies to your last post from your prior visit in this thread that you haven't yet replied to. --Admin]
[This message has been edited by Admin, 12-02-2002]

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Jet
Inactive Member


Message 268 of 270 (25437)
12-04-2002 12:05 PM
Reply to: Message 267 by Jet
12-02-2002 1:28 PM


Originally posted by EvC Forum Administrator:
Copy of message 42 from other thread deleted. If you'd like a reply to a post in another thread it is sufficient to request it. You have replies to your last post from your prior visit in this thread that you haven't yet replied to. --Admin
[This message has been edited by Admin, 12-02-2002]
Consistancy on the part of the EvC Forum Administrator would be helpful. It was due to a previously bypassed post from said thread, (which was directed at me but not a direct reply to any of my posts), that the determination was made to copy message 42 here. Perhaps the EvC Forum Administrator should have deleted message 42 from that thread rather than from this one. At any rate, I would not have copied message 42 to this thread had the EvC Forum Administrator not suggested that I do so and had that suggestion been offered as a reply to my posts it most likely would not have been missed by me initially. Subsequently, I attempted to follow the suggestion offered and then most recently attempted to do the same. As it is felt that message 42 doesn't fit the criteria of Mooses' thread, I will now delete it from that forum. When message 42 was initially reposted here, it got little feedback from the Evo crowd. Only three responses from two individuals and neither of them seemed to offer up what I initially requested. I had hoped to get more response this time around while avoiding continual repeats of what I received before. Perhaps it would have been even better to suggest that I delete the previous copy of that post from this thread rather than its latest edition. Few people are still reading that far back in this thread and I quickly grow tired of reminding people of the post number of the original posting.
Evolution versus Creationism
Is It Science?
Evolution is Not Science
Page 15
Message #225
Shalom!
Jet
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***Message 45 of 54
The link Moose provided to start this thread presents the opinion that Creation Science is more a discouragement to religious faith than anything else, and proposes an approach reconciling conservative Christian views with science. Either of these topics seems more than enough for a single thread, so Moose's point that the "Evolution isn't science" diversion belongs in another thread is a good one.
There is, in fact, an Evolution is Not Science thread already started in the Is It Science forum. The discussion could be moved there, or a new thread could be begun. Jet, perhaps you could repost a copy of your message in that thread or in a new thread?
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--EvC Forum Administrator***
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As we survey all the evidence, the thought insistently arises that some supernatural agency - or, rather, Agency - must be involved. Is it possible that suddenly, without intending to, we have stumbled upon scientific proof of the existence of a Supreme Being? Was it God who stepped in and so providentially crafted the cosmos for our benefit?
Prof. George Greenstein
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[This message has been edited by Jet, 12-04-2002]

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Admin
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Message 269 of 270 (25443)
12-04-2002 12:52 PM
Reply to: Message 268 by Jet
12-04-2002 12:05 PM


Jet writes:
Consistancy on the part of the EvC Forum Administrator would be helpful...At any rate, I would not have copied message 42 to this thread had the EvC Forum Administrator not suggested that I do so...
I appreciate that you've gone to the trouble to read the message I posted to you five months ago, but if you want your actions to be understood then you must either act in a timely fashion or state up front that you're acting upon a request from long ago.
Few people are still reading that far back in this thread and I quickly grow tired of reminding people of the post number of the original posting.
Board administration would appreciate it if could extend the same consideration to your fellow members that you expect in return.

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Jet
Inactive Member


Message 270 of 270 (25446)
12-04-2002 1:18 PM
Reply to: Message 269 by Admin
12-04-2002 12:52 PM


Originally posted by Admin:
Board administration would appreciate it if could extend the same consideration to your fellow members that you expect in return.
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Board particitpants would also appreciate honest equality from the Board administration when it comes to enforcing forum rules. From what I have observed upon entrance, (not to mention the many other creationists who have stated their objections to perceived bias on the part of the administration), the rules do not apply, or at least are not enforced as stringently upon proponents of evolution as opposed to the proponents of creation. I understand there is the attempt to make these forums as fair as possible. However, one need only read through several pages of many forums to see that the scales do indeed tip to the left in favor of evolutionists. I guess this is to be expected in an arena "created" by evolutionists. Oxymorons aside, I will endeavor to pay closer attention to posts within a given thread that I may participate in, on the slight chance that a post is directed at me apart from being a direct reply to one of my posts.
Shalom
Jet
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As we survey all the evidence, the thought insistently arises that some supernatural agency - or, rather, Agency - must be involved. Is it possible that suddenly, without intending to, we have stumbled upon scientific proof of the existence of a Supreme Being? Was it God who stepped in and so providentially crafted the cosmos for our benefit?
Prof. George Greenstein
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