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Is talkorigins.org a propoganda site?

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Minnemooseus
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Message 118 of 301 (285672)
02-10-2006 3:30 PM

Bad topic drift or not - Hard to tell (+ link to Behe topic)
Various varieties of creationism, ranging from YECism to theistic evolutionism, all contain at least bits of ID.
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Michael Behe, rightfully so, gets cited as the most prominent IDer who also does work in mainstream biology. I would definitely place Behe as being a theistic evolutionist and being very near to "non-theistic evolution". Behe accepts common decent of the species, including man and the other great apes having a common ancestor.
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I refer all to the Behe on organismal evolution topic, which seems to be the main Behe topic. It ended up in the "Limbo" forum, and is now closed.
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Moose
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{I'm moved the topic back to the "Intelligent Design" forum and reopened it. It's now here. - Adminnemooseus)
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Minnemooseus
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02-10-2006 7:04 PM 		Reply to: Message 121 by randman
02-10-2006 6:16 PM

Re: Explain that leap....
minnemooseus. in message 118, writes:
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Michael Behe, rightfully so, gets cited as the most prominent IDer who also does work in mainstream biology. I would definitely place Behe as being a theistic evolutionist and being very near to "non-theistic evolution". Behe accepts common decent of the species, including man and the other great apes having a common ancestor
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Yes, Behe is both an IDist and also very much an evolutionist.
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randman writes:
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And Behe is not the hero of the movement, but just another person with an open enough mind to see that ID is a better framework than ToE.
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You deny that Behe is one of the select few, as being a prominent and often cited supporter of ID? He is one, Dembski is another. Maybe there are a few more.
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Do you have anything to support the idea that, to Behe, ID is something other than details within the greater framework of the mainstream theory of (biological) evolution?
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Behe is an IDist theistic evolutionist. Heavy of the evolutionist part.
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Moose
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