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Author Topic:   The best scientific method (Bayesian form of H-D)
Andya Primanda
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Message 8 of 273 (75421)
12-28-2003 10:11 AM
Reply to: Message 7 by Stephen ben Yeshua
12-28-2003 9:54 AM


Re: Nature and human nature research
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9. So, I and some others began some prayer experiments on various species. For one, we chose (late 70's) the California Condor, that none of us had on our life-lists, and which had very dim prospects for continued survival. We got remarkable responses to our prayers, and felt that God very well could be artifically selecting and otherwise intervening in the course of "natural" selection. Of course, so is man, but this God person has made it clear that, if men are handy, He will use them. I also took on the problem of the Dickcissel, my favorite bird species, which had been declining in population for as long as BBS data were available. That was a more expensive prayer experiment, requiring me to give up my tenured university position in order to reverse this trend. (The Condor experiment only took corporate fasting). But it worked. The species stopped declining in population, the problems causing it to decline were reversed, and it all took place within a year or two of my resignation.
WHile I am skeptical of your methods, your experiment, if can be demonstrated, might be useful. Try praying to prevent the Javan rhinoceros from extinction, would you? At present there are approx. 40 individuals left in the wild, and only miracles can save them from extinction. So please help them. I believe rhinos have more ecological impact than birds.

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Andya Primanda
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Message 19 of 273 (75764)
12-30-2003 2:18 AM
Reply to: Message 15 by Stephen ben Yeshua
12-29-2003 3:05 PM


Re: Nature and human nature research
I'm still skeptical.
By the way, I am not a Christian and I don't intend to be one. Does this prayer method effective across religious boundaries?

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Andya Primanda
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Message 21 of 273 (75766)
12-30-2003 2:23 AM
Reply to: Message 16 by Abshalom
12-29-2003 4:11 PM


Re: Nature and human nature research
Abshalom,
It's hard to measure the ecological importance of anything. Of course birds are important, but I am more inclined to point to the birds Stephen 'tried to save'.
And I don't know if the success of saving the condor lies more at the spiritual side than the scientific side. I'm just curious.

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Andya Primanda
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Message 121 of 273 (79770)
01-21-2004 10:25 AM
Reply to: Message 116 by sidelined
01-20-2004 10:42 PM


Careful what you wished for... prophecies for these guys are not predictions of what would happen but guidelines of what should happen. You might find yourself in a nuke shelter early 2007 because they want the prophecies to happen so bad they fulfil it themselves.

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