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Richard Townsend
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Message 18 of 68 (513642)
06-30-2009 2:48 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Perdition
06-30-2009 1:09 PM


True, but the Puritans didn't come here from England. They left England and went to live with the Dutch, who were much more tolerant of religious groups. The Puritans thought they'd be fine, but they noticed their children playing with kids who didn't believe like they did and became concerned they were being "tainted" and so set out for the new world with the intent of starting their own country that would be a Puritan one.
My private hypothesis, with no evidence, is that the strength of American conservatism is related to this strong puritan heritage. We simply don't have the same thing over here in the UK.
Re ground rules, the possibility of error is assumed among scientists, but it is not assumed by non-scientists and they tend to interpret scientific statements as definitely true('scientifically proven'). So I think when debating with non-scientists this assumption needs to be made explicit.
In fact in my experience, some YECs get really annoyed when I tell them that science is not able to prove its theories are true.
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Richard Townsend
Member (Idle past 4757 days)
Posts: 103
From: London, England
Joined: 07-16-2008


Message 55 of 68 (514345)
07-06-2009 5:59 PM
Reply to: Message 36 by petrophysics1
07-02-2009 3:12 PM


Re: Come to Jesus, Garlic Breath
My question went over his head, and he got pissed. He never did figure out atheists like himself and you BELIEVE many things you have no evidence for. Never notice it in yourselves, but you sure do like to point it out in people who have religious beliefs,and belittle them.
You are talking about evidence for a world view, versus evidence of things in ordinary life. We don't go round examining the evidence for things in everyday life in the same way as we need to critically examine evidence for a world view. Nobody does that, nor should we expect people to. What has your point got to do with the world view question? Nothing at all.
Your behaviour in respect of Onifre is highly offensive and this weakens your credibility even further. Be ashamed.

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