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Originally posted by TheOne
Open up first book, Genesis. (count 50 etc.) If you put these letters together it will spell out word "Torah". . . Now open second book, Exodus. Do the same thing, first "Tav" in the text and fifty letter sequences. You'll arrive at the same result, word "Torah".
Do the same for the rest three books and see for yourself that each of five books will give you same results.
What you have said here is a long way from the truth.
First, it is no secret that the Hebrew writings utilized many literary devices; the poems in Psalms, for instance, are often written acrostically (using consecutive letters of the alphabet to begin each line).
However, the reality of your torah example is:
Genesis and Exodus do have "torah" at an ELS of 50 beginning with the first "tav". This in itself would not be difficult to incorporate into the text and would also be consistent with the literary devices of the period.
Also, there is a great deal of latitude in assigning a vowel sound to the letter "vav". In genesis, for instance, the "vav" of the ELS word "torah" is obtained from the "vav" in the word "t'h
om" and does, in the text, represent an "o" vowel. In the exodux ELS, however, the "vav" representing the "o" of "torah" is taken from the word "
v'yudah" meaning "
and Judah" and doesn't represent a vowel at all but is, rather, a consonant. IOW, if the letter "vav" is incorporated into the ELS word, then latitude is being allowed for that "vav" to represent both the consonants and vowels with the sounds: "o", "u", "v" and "w".
As to your further contention that all five books of the Torah exhibit these ELS(s), this is simply not true.
Leviticus does not present this sequence at all.
Numbers is said to exhibit this "torah" ELS if one begins somewhere near the end of the book and counts backwards at 50 letter intervals. Just how near the end of the book one starts, I'm not sure. I counted from the first 5 or 6 "tav"s and hadn't come across it by then.
Deuteronomy also does not have the sequence from the first "tav" occuring in the book. Neither does it have the sequence counting backwards from near the end of the book,(at least not that I found). It has been said that there is a backward sequence beginning near the end of the book at a sequence of 49 spaces, rather than 50, but I haven't troubled to look for it.
If you still think that these sequences are in the torah books as you have described them, then provide the details regarding the beginning of the sequences and I will check again. Until then, it appears as though this "phenomenon" is not nearly as impressive as you have attempted to describe it.
Namaste'
Amlodhi
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