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Author Topic:   Why should religion get a free pass?
NoNukes
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Message 86 of 112 (648917)
01-19-2012 11:46 AM
Reply to: Message 85 by Larni
01-19-2012 10:14 AM


Re: Why should religion get a free pass? Bump
I wonder what the newer members might think.
I think the thread ended because it lost all of its entertainment value once the asylum inmates stopped posting.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. The proper place to-day, the only place which Massachusetts has provided for her freer and less desponding spirits, is in her prisons, to be put out and locked out of the State by her own act, as they have already put themselves out by their principles. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

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NoNukes
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Message 90 of 112 (648939)
01-19-2012 12:50 PM


What would constitute not getting a free pass?
When I say 'free pass' I mean (what I think Dawkins means) letting a statement of faith (such as that Jesus returned from death, humans are reincarnated or there is a non material realm that can be accessed through prayer or meditation for example) go unchallenged because it is somehow 'off limits' to such challenges.
How is the treatment that religion gets any different from the treatment that faux science/history gets? Why didn't people mount campaigns to get 'In Search of' removed from the air, when Leonard Nimoy was talking about Big Foot, ESP, and other crap?
Do we go out of our way to ridicule our co-workers who believe in ghosts or von Daniken conspiracy theories, or do we largely just leave them alone as long as they don't leave their work for us to do?
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Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. The proper place to-day, the only place which Massachusetts has provided for her freer and less desponding spirits, is in her prisons, to be put out and locked out of the State by her own act, as they have already put themselves out by their principles. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

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NoNukes
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Message 98 of 112 (649013)
01-19-2012 7:02 PM
Reply to: Message 97 by Larni
01-19-2012 6:28 PM


Perhaps religion gets a free pass because people don't want to pay the social costs of ridiculing people who hold views that a large minority of people agree with.
When I debate with creationists on this web page, I find myself having to say very unkind things in response to unkind and/or ridiculous statements. Why would I want to have such a conversation with people that I have to work for, work with, and/or whose company I enjoy.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. The proper place to-day, the only place which Massachusetts has provided for her freer and less desponding spirits, is in her prisons, to be put out and locked out of the State by her own act, as they have already put themselves out by their principles. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

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NoNukes
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Message 100 of 112 (649016)
01-19-2012 7:18 PM
Reply to: Message 99 by hooah212002
01-19-2012 7:10 PM


Because I can assure you that 9 out of 10 of those people would very much think differently of you if they knew you were (are you??) an atheist.
I'm not an atheist. It turns out that being a Christian does not require me to hold beliefs about cosmology, biology, and paleontology that are contrary to science. I'm also not required to defend or support the beliefs of creationists.
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Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. The proper place to-day, the only place which Massachusetts has provided for her freer and less desponding spirits, is in her prisons, to be put out and locked out of the State by her own act, as they have already put themselves out by their principles. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

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