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Author Topic:   What does life do outside of science?
Nuggin
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Message 7 of 112 (242261)
09-11-2005 11:48 AM
Reply to: Message 4 by Ben!
09-11-2005 11:26 AM


Re: I don't get it at all
I'm not sure science has ever claimed to try to give the "meaning" of life.

I am sure that religion does claim to give the "meaning" of life.

So, can you tell us what the meaning of life is? Also, can you show that is applies for all perspectives? That those who don't follow your particular religion can not achieve meaning in their lives?

Instead of demanding answers from science that science doesn't claim to give, maybe we need to start turning this argument around and asking why religion doesn't answer the questions it claims to be able to answer.


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Nuggin
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Message 80 of 112 (246869)
09-28-2005 3:32 AM
Reply to: Message 78 by b b
09-28-2005 2:28 AM


Re: I don't get it at all
The point is that he's coming back to get/reward all those on his side (not religion specific}. Either you are with him or against; him no innocent bystanders. He's not coming to PROVE anything. Who's opinion does he want/need? Interfere with his will-You are destroyed.

Come on, take a step back and re-read this. It just sounds very very silly and childish. I'm not saying you are being childish, but that this kind of statement is childish.

If God is all present, all powerful and all knowing, why does he need to come back and reward some people and punish others. If God is all love, why wouldn't he forgive those who didn't believe in him. Why wouldn't he punish those who do believe for failing to convert those that didn't?

These "my way or the highway" type statements don't sound like the word of God. They sound like the word of men in positions of power who want to exert that power and influence over others.

This is why organized religion has such a bad reputation. Clearly, whoevers been feeding you this stuff is doing so because they want influence over you, they want you to a) give them money or b) do what they tell you to do.

God would not need to use threats to get his point across


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Nuggin
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Message 103 of 112 (274552)
01-01-2006 1:35 AM
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01-01-2006 12:23 AM


Spirit/Suffering
if it were a struggle for you to get your next breath of air, you would find it almost impossible to even think about spirituality.

I gotta disagree. It's often those in the worst shape that are the most spiritual.

I suspect that even the hardest skin atheist has 2nd thoughts while fighting for his last breath.


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Nuggin
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Message 104 of 112 (274553)
01-01-2006 1:35 AM
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01-01-2006 12:23 AM


Spirit/Suffering
if it were a struggle for you to get your next breath of air, you would find it almost impossible to even think about spirituality.

I gotta disagree. It's often those in the worst shape that are the most spiritual.

I suspect that even the hardest skin atheist has 2nd thoughts while fighting for his last breath.


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