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Author Topic:   What does life do outside of science?
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Message 72 of 112 (246441)
09-26-2005 2:49 AM
Reply to: Message 68 by Silent H
09-16-2005 2:05 PM


Re: I don't get it at all
A theoretical entity does not have to remain theoretical and much work by theoretical scientists is not about stuff that can never be detected. Its about stuff that may not be detectable now, and they try and figure out ways to bring it inside the realm of science through possible experiments... duh.

Well God is detectable and maybe some theoretical scientist should try to find him. Prayer is the only way at this point. When God comes back, will scientist ask him to prove himself? After all the evidence through the years I don't think he will explain. He'll prove it by destroying all who don't believe. Then science will be satisfied with facts, too late though.

If creation is wrong and I die then nothing happens-I lived a good life for nothing. If scientists are wrong about God and die then they are eternal candles-Less to lose with creation even if it is wrong huh? That's the obvious choice for me hands down.


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Message 78 of 112 (246865)
09-28-2005 2:28 AM
Reply to: Message 74 by Silent H
09-26-2005 7:17 AM


Re: I don't get it at all
holmes writes:

If God is detectable, then why don't you be the scientist to show this to be true?

I previously writes:

prayer is the only way at this point.


pray if you want to detect him.
Don't you mean "they"? There is evidence over the years to support pretty much all systems of religious conviction, especially if one does not press too hard for literal interpretations.

I mean EXACTLY what I said. There is only ONE truth. I'm not speaking of religion; I'm speaking of what actually is. Some religions (not all) may be different interpretaions, translations, or explanations of the same truth. Also, I do believe the bible is literal. If it said a "dog flew," I wouldn't take it as a metaphor.
How do you know this? And if this is true, doesn't this suggest a rather ridiculous God? First of all it will prove nothing to those that are destroyed, and those observing the destruction already believe anyway so what's the point?

The point is that he's coming back to get/reward all those on his side (not religion specific}. Either you are with him or against; him no innocent bystanders. He's not coming to PROVE anything. Who's opinion does he want/need? Interfere with his will-You are destroyed.
To be honest, honesty in one's own ignorance is the best bet... if one bases faith on gambling propositions.

My faith is based on the bible and common sense (reasoning) at the same time. I only said
If creation is wrong and I die then nothing happens-I lived a good life for nothing. If scientists are wrong about God and die then they are eternal candles-Less to lose with creation even if it is wrong huh? That's the obvious choice for me hands down.

in an attempt to sway your foolish ideas before it's too late. But really it matters to God what you beleive; not me. I just enjoy an intense debate about ideas. I don't feel anyone has to believe God, but I'm one of the ones who will be hanging out with him in the end. Hope to see ya'll there. REBEL WITH A CAUSE.

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Message 79 of 112 (246866)
09-28-2005 2:47 AM
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09-26-2005 8:02 AM


Re: I don't get it at all
Unless you've got it backwards, and God wants people to be atheists. Seems pretty likely to me, actually. And you don't really know, do you?

Father forgive him for he know not what he is talking about. Please do not destroy the ignorant. There; I pray for you. God does not expect everyone to believe in him (hell has a lot of room),but he does want everyone to believe. It's not like he slipped up, someone saw him, and told everyone about him. If he didn't want anyone to know about him, we wouldn't.

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Message 83 of 112 (246878)
09-28-2005 5:38 AM
Reply to: Message 81 by Silent H
09-28-2005 4:05 AM


Re: I don't get it at all
Hey, my first question was how you knew this

Is this a serious question? I think everyone here, whether they agree or not, knows how I know this.

Stop proselytizing for a second and remember what we were discussing, which was evidence. All religions have support found for them within the world. That is actually true.

You can call all the others mistaken, and they... unlike the creators of your precious mythology... built their religion from what was seen around them, so as to answer that issue. It would be hypocritical, but at least its an answer.


would you please remove all ideas of what you think I beleive from your mind. Now re-read what I wrote. I'm saying I beleive many religions may (possibility) worship the same "God," but maybe with a different name.
It is inconsistent with your first post. You said there would be proof as he killed people. So I asked you about that.

There will be proof once he's destroyed his enemies, but he will not destroy his enemy's to prove anything. It will be judgement (or punishment). How can you truly understand the complex laws of science when you can hardly understand my simple ideas. Do you jump to conclusions when reading a science book also; or do you just do it to desparetly try to discredit a working theory?
Thus attempting to sway me, if you believe he does care, means you are looking to hurt me instead of help me. So were you just being cruel or an idiot with poor logic skills?

In my faith, part of everyone's purpose is to win souls to the kingdom. sounds like "the chronicles of riddick, I know, but it is what it is.

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Message 86 of 112 (247107)
09-28-2005 10:12 PM
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09-28-2005 7:26 AM


Re: I don't get it at all
disobeying God's single, obvious commandment - "Thou shallt not believe in God.

Would you explain this idea to me? I'm curious because this is like the 3rd or 4th time you said that.


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Message 88 of 112 (247158)
09-29-2005 12:40 AM
Reply to: Message 87 by nator
09-28-2005 10:23 PM


Re: I don't get it at all
I wouldn't do that. There are tribes that do a lot of things of that nature such as firewalking and probably drinking various potions. I beleive if it is God's will(being that I do believe he is the creator and that his will controls everything)for one to survive the poison one will. I don't know his will so I would not chance it. My bible also tells me not to tempt God. I take that literal too. Tempt - as in purposely drinking poison

I don't know if this is the intended meaning or just an interpretation of what is, but I would not chance it being that I don't fully understand this. My ignorance here is why I would not try it; not that it does not mean what it says.


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