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Author Topic:   What does life do outside of science?
kjsimons
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Message 35 of 112 (242977)
09-13-2005 1:59 PM
Reply to: Message 34 by Silent H
09-13-2005 1:43 PM


Re: I don't get it at all
... and we certainly are not dependent on cooperation for our survival.

Holmes, I would have to strongly disagree with this statement of yours. We are highly dependent on other people for our survival, maybe now more than any time in our past. If we didn't have cooperation we wouldn't have any of the trappings of modern civilization. No electricity, treated water, sewer, factories and that which they produce, ... etc. The list goes on and on. In primitive times, your actual day to day survival depended on the ability of the tribe you were in to find food and defend themselves against other tribes. You don't think that took a cooperative effort?


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kjsimons
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Message 40 of 112 (242992)
09-13-2005 2:41 PM
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09-13-2005 2:27 PM


Re: I don't get it at all
Certainly life improves via cooperation, and humans have thrived on it. But I think claiming our bare survival depends on it is a bit extreme.

Not extreme at all. This naked ape's strong suit is that it has the intellect to cooperate very effectively. Come on and look at us, we have no claws, no body armour, we can't run very fast, we have to make clothes to keep us warm, and our children are dependent on us for at least a decade. A single human may survive but not thrive. Our species survival was based on it's ability to cooperate in small groups. A punishment in many societies used to be banishment. If there was no other settlement or people you could join up with, this was almost as good as a death sentence. I think you serverely underestimate the need for people to cooperate for survival, especially in ancient times.


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