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Author Topic:   What does life do outside of science?
Silent H
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Message 81 of 112 (246871)
09-28-2005 4:05 AM
Reply to: Message 78 by b b
09-28-2005 2:28 AM


Re: I don't get it at all
pray if you want to detect him.
Who said I hadn't? No detection from this unit.
There is only ONE truth. I'm not speaking of religion; I'm speaking of what actually is.
Stop proselytizing for a second and remember what we were discussing, which was evidence. All religions have support found for them within the world. That is actually true.
You can call all the others mistaken, and they... unlike the creators of your precious mythology... built their religion from what was seen around them, so as to answer that issue. It would be hypocritical, but at least its an answer.
Also, I do believe the bible is literal. If it said a "dog flew," I wouldn't take it as a metaphor.
Suddenly I want to get into book publishing, well one book publishing.
The point is that he's coming back to get/reward all those on his side (not religion specific}. Either you are with him or against; him no innocent bystanders. He's not coming to PROVE anything. Who's opinion does he want/need? Interfere with his will-You are destroyed.
Hey, my first question was how you knew this. But let me address this ramble. It is inconsistent with your first post. You said there would be proof as he killed people. So I asked you about that.
Here you suggest that he's not proving anything, but simply rewarding his followers apparently by killing nonbelievers. Or maybe that's just punishment.
And yet again you set up a disturbing image of a moron for your God. If he makes everyone, doesn't he already know our opinions? More importantly though, what should he care what they are? According to you opinions can stop the will of God? How can opinions stop the will of something that is omnipotent?
Sticks and stone may break my bones, but names will never hurt me... unless I'm God?
I only said... {pascal's wager}... in an attempt to sway your foolish ideas before it's too late. But really it matters to God what you beleive; not me.
If God does care then telling me to switch for gambling reasons will simply waste my life as well as getting me toasted in the end. Thus attempting to sway me, if you believe he does care, means you are looking to hurt me instead of help me. So were you just being cruel or an idiot with poor logic skills?
but I'm one of the ones who will be hanging out with him in the end.
Sounds like a terrible time. If you have one difference of opinion you get fried, and you have to live like that for eternity. That's be pretty tough for a person that proclaims...
I just enjoy an intense debate about ideas.
Well I guess it will be intense. According to you I'll be cooked in the first seconds. That doesn't leave much debate however.
This message has been edited by holmes, 09-28-2005 04:06 AM

holmes
"...what a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.."(D. Bros)

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Silent H
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Posts: 7405
From: satellite of love
Joined: 12-11-2002


Message 84 of 112 (246883)
09-28-2005 7:04 AM
Reply to: Message 83 by b b
09-28-2005 5:38 AM


Re: I don't get it at all
Is this a serious question? I think everyone here, whether they agree or not, knows how I know this.
My question is serious. How do you know this?
I'm saying I beleive many religions may (possibility) worship the same "God," but maybe with a different name.
I understand that that is what you were suggesting, but that will only pertain to some, as even your wording above suggests. What about the rest?
There will be proof once he's destroyed his enemies, but he will not destroy his enemy's to prove anything.
Once again, I am at a loss as to how this achieves anything. Humans can destroy their enemies, all of them in some cases, and that effects nothing as a suggestion that they are creators nor gods. And to get into the metaphysical, satan could appear and destroy his enemies... how would that prove he was a creator or a God?
How can you truly understand the complex laws of science when you can hardly understand my simple ideas.
Okay I see how there was a difference between what you meant and what I took from it, but honestly the way you wrote about "proof" in your first reply suggested it was proof to the nonbelievers and believers alike. It suggested that was at least in part a goal.
In any case, the laws of science are generally pretty simple, though there are some complex models (especially mathematical ones). It is easy to understand them, than your so called "simple" ideas in that they are generally not conflicting with each other, and in the end can be described in a way that I can test them if I wish.
You mentioned one test, and I told you it failed. Science has an answer for that. Do you?
try to discredit a working theory?
Though not desperate, I am a skeptic, and follow the scientific method. That involves careful reserve of judgement and some level of attempt at falsification.
I am uncertain which theory you had that was working?
In my faith, part of everyone's purpose is to win souls to the kingdom. sounds like "the chronicles of riddick, I know, but it is what it is.
If by "sounds like Chronicles of Riddick" you mean it sounds like a piece of fiction and in specific a lame first installment of a much larger piece that I hope will improve as it goes on, then you would be correct.

holmes
"...what a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.."(D. Bros)

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Silent H
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Message 89 of 112 (247184)
09-29-2005 4:11 AM
Reply to: Message 88 by b b
09-29-2005 12:40 AM


I don't know his will
You did an amazing imitation of that earlier in the thread.
My bible also tells me not to tempt God.
It also says not to take God's name in vain (which does not mean swearing). It also says not to judge others. And it also suggests that one should not go about talking like you know what's in the afterlife.
You seem to pick and choose what to follow.

holmes
"...what a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.."(D. Bros)

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