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Author Topic:   Demise of Big Bang: Cosmology Statement
Percy
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Message 3 of 12 (142090)
09-13-2004 3:48 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by redwolf
09-13-2004 2:51 PM


Information about first signatory of the statement from Arp, Halton Christian (1927-2013):
Arp, Halton Christian (1927-)
An American astronomer noted for challenging the theory that the large redshifts of quasars and other active galaxies are an indication of great distance. His Atlas of Peculiar Galaxies, published in 1966, contains photographs of 338 peculiar and interacting galaxies taken with the Hale Telescope, and was instrumental in raising the issue of discordant redshifts. Arp received a B.S. from Harvard (1949) and a Ph.D. from the California Institute of Technology (1953).
discordant redshift
A discrepancy between the redshifts of galaxies that lie close together in the sky and that appear to be interacting or to be connected by luminous bridges. The nature of the discordant redshift of members of compact groups of galaxies, such as Stephan's Quintet and Seyfert's Sextet, has been a subject of debate for many years. If the frequency of discordant galaxies is greater than the statistics of chance projection allow, or if apparent connections between discordant galaxies are genuine bridges of matter, as has been argued by Halton Arp, the Burbidges, and others, it challenges the almost universally-held belief that galactic redshifts are due to cosmic expansion and might signify the need for new physical theories. However, although the situation has not been completely settled, evidence now strongly suggests that discordant galaxies do not occur more often than can be explained by line-of-sight coincidences; also, there is independent physical evidence that discordant galaxies all have physical properties consistent with a cosmological distance; for example, those with higher redshift tend to be smaller and fainter than other members of the group.
The statement itself reads like a pleading for special treatment for supporters of ideas that have not found acceptance within the broader scientific community.
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 4 of 12 (142303)
09-14-2004 9:29 AM
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09-13-2004 3:48 PM


I'm a little surprised this thread hasn't attracted any attention, because what the Halton Arp group is doing is copying the Creationist strategy of gathering many different perspectives under a single umbrella to create a lobbying group. The signatories hold cosmological views that haven't found much support within the scientific community, but they're apparently unified in rejecting the Big Bang. Even though they don't agree with each other, they've gathered together to oppose Big Bangists and Big Bangism. Unable to find followers among those qualified to assess their work, they're instead taking their case to a group often easily flim-flammed - the lay public.
The most precious part of their statement asks that their grant requests be reviewed by experts from outside the field. If I'd just had a year where I'd screwed up, I'd wish that people outside my field were evaluating me, too. Perhaps politics should be defined as what a group of people does when trying to promote views that would otherwise be rejeced.
--Percy

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