crashfrog:
But look, you're really getting way ahead of yourself worrying about the stuff mankind may or may not ever know. There's a whole world of information that rest of us know that you don't. You should be trying to catch up a little bit before you go worrying about the limits of human cognition. You're not exactly at a place where you're pushing those limits yet.
Well, I don't see anyone pushing the limits of human cognition around here, myself included. On the whole I'd say
GDR has opened some big questions rather ably. Some people never ask them.
GDR asks if there is, or could be, more to reality than science can discern by its methods.
His cat, intended as an example, is fast becoming a tar baby. The validity of the question does not depend on the necrophilia of a cat.
The cat is just one those charming oddball stories people tell. It's like
crashfrog's own charming oddball story, which he tells elsewhere, of American journalists who go to work 'systematically hostile' to the very political ideas they are most likely to hold. Such a notion hardly represents a reasoned analysis of comprehensive data. It's just a tale that, like the necrophiliac feline, gets indulged for its story appeal over its logic.
Let's see where we are with the big question.
I notice
GDR and
crashfrog, among others, agreeing that reality is larger than science in at least one respect: science doesn't know everything. Our body of
empirical knowledge has to be revised and updated to accommodate something larger: the
empirically knowable.
Is this larger thing, the empirically knowable, synonymous with reality itself? Or is reality larger even than this?
Most individuals admit the question remains open. We don't know.
For the two things to be synonymous, reality would have to be empirically comprehensible in every detail. We don't know that it is.
Even if it is, science by itself is not the mechanism for demonstrating the equivalence. Science is limited to empiricism by definition. It can only take account of data it can admit. Confirmation bias, as
crash notes.
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