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Author Topic:   The consequences of "Evolution is false"
Buzsaw
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Message 75 of 210 (359411)
10-27-2006 10:38 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by Straggler
10-25-2006 7:33 PM


Re: No creationist but....
Straggler writes:
In short I think it is (often willful) ignorance combined with an element of paranoia regarding societies attituade towards their views that results in the sort of creationist claims you detail in your OP. Science is perceived to be (probably correctly) the main obstacle to society at large being willing to accept their claims which they genuinely believe to be as justified as established scientific theories.
I guess we need a real creationist to give their view to take this to the next step.
Hi Straggler. It's pretty difficult for any real ID creationist to address anything in EvC's science forums when the EvC definition of science excludes us from that exclusive definition of what science is and none of the research work and papers of our creo ID scientists, including the PHDs is not considered science.
Evolution is considered to be a science theory. How then can anything we say be considered as sensible by you folks when we are considered to be ignorant as to what science is?
Any debate I get into in science related subjects gets me in hot water with admin who now wants an educated proxy creo to sit in as my spokesman. Heck even if PHD Drs Gish or Austin of ICR came in here on my behalf how would that count anything when even their creo science research papers are not accredited here as being science?
I don't blame Faith at all for disengaging herself from science debate here.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

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Buzsaw
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Message 77 of 210 (359414)
10-27-2006 11:05 PM
Reply to: Message 63 by Dr Adequate
10-27-2006 5:50 PM


Re: Majority May Be Wrong
Hi DA. Your long list of prestigious folks does not impress me all that much so far as arguing for TOE. All your long list does so far as I can see is to substantiate the prophetic Biblical record of origins which also prophetically states that in the latter days men will be ungodly (secularist/athiest) denying the power of God and apostate from truth, i.e. denying ID and creationism. It also says of latter day mankind that they will be "ever learning but unable to come to the knowledge of truth." (quote may not exact but very close without looking it up.)

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

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Buzsaw
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Message 80 of 210 (359417)
10-27-2006 11:15 PM
Reply to: Message 76 by joshua221
10-27-2006 10:54 PM


Re: No creationist but....
Hang in there and do the best you can, good bud. Many avid athiests and evolutionista including folks like the late Dr Morris, founder of Institute For Creation Research and Mr Miller who did our creation seminar have been enlightened to renounce the TOE. We must work and pray for our counterpart EvC friends to this end. Deception is powerful but in the end will be overcome with truth.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

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Buzsaw
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Message 81 of 210 (359418)
10-27-2006 11:25 PM
Reply to: Message 78 by kuresu
10-27-2006 11:09 PM


Re: No creationist but....
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kuresu writes:
And the point of your "self pity" parade is what, exactly?
It's not self pity, bud. {abe: The point is that) Schraf wants to debate us on TOE. Some of you people want us to come on and made fools of. IYO our arguments are not scientific enough to count as anything but ignorant foolishness so why should any of us have reason to get involved?
Edited by Buzsaw, : No reason given.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

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