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Author Topic:   Science and Speech in Determining "Human" Kind
jar
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Message 76 of 268 (424108)
09-25-2007 4:37 PM
Reply to: Message 75 by Equinox
09-25-2007 4:17 PM


Re: last chance to argue your point
We also have pictographs dating as far back as 9000BCE which shows spoken language predates even those. So "human speech" goes back at least 11,000 years.
But still, no information has been shown to suggest that "human speech" is in anyway different in nature than speech by any other species.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 82 of 268 (424165)
09-25-2007 11:12 PM
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09-25-2007 10:51 PM


More nonsense.
It is saying, for 3000 years [9000 less 6000], all of humanity was in dormency mode, did not graduate to recall a single name or evidence directly affirming speech.
LOL
Nonsense. It is saying that for over 11,000 years we have evidence that affirms human speech. Over 11,000 years. It does not mean that speech did not develop even further in the past, hundreds of thousands of years, maybe even millions of years in the past, but we know that for at least 11,000 years humans have also been recording written symbols and speech predated even that.
Maybe because this notion simply does not exist!
Obviously the notion exists. We have examples of speech for many marine mammals, birds, our cousins the other primates, elephants, the great cats, hyenas, hippos, in fact just about everywhere you look.
Now granted you are free to keep spouting the stuff you believe, but over here on the science side we need some evidence.
Until information has been shown to suggest that "human speech" is in anyway different in nature than speech by any other species, all we have is another fairy tale.

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jar
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Message 230 of 268 (427643)
10-12-2007 10:42 AM
Reply to: Message 228 by bernerbits
10-12-2007 10:31 AM


Re: Troll!
How can you possibly have something that can even be called speech without language? What does this language-free speech you speak of even look like?
Don't know how it looks, but it sounds like, bird calls, chimp grunts, monkey howls, dog barks, ground squirrels chitter, whale songs, elephant rumbles, lion roars and elk trumpets.

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