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anglagard

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Message 15 of 268 (423587)
09-22-2007 11:56 PM

Reply to: Message 10 by IamJoseph
09-22-2007 11:11 PM

IAJ writes:

Science has not disproven Genesis' vindicated science speech is a unique factor with humans. This is of course a scientific issue for discussion, and dumping it anywhere else is a form of admission.

I am curious about your use of the term 'speech' to connote uniquely 'human.' Personally, since one of the colleges I work for is for the deaf, and since my interaction with the deaf indicates that not only are they every bit equal to the hearing in all human tasks not involving sound, but are also equal to all humans in intelligence on average, shouldn't you broaden your assertions and vocabulary enough to include them?

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The more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza

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anglagard

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Message 56 of 268 (423939)
09-24-2007 9:17 PM

Reply to: Message 54 by IamJoseph
09-24-2007 9:05 PM

Lysenkoism

IAJ writes:

Adaptions such as a polar bear having greater cold defensive skins, are also not gene based factors, but environmental defense mechanisms based on environement impacts - these are reversable with environmental changes, negating the gene premise!

This sure sounds a lot like Lysenkoism to me. Haven't you heard the news? Lysenkoism is as dead as the millions who starved under its grip.

Edited by anglagard, : forgot sig

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The more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza

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anglagard

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Message 69 of 268 (423994)
09-25-2007 2:50 AM

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09-25-2007 2:28 AM

Re: Lysenkoism

Rrhain writes:

I think you mean "Lamarckism."

From what I have read, one tends to lead, or better, be corrupted by the other. To be fair, IMO Lysenkoism is Lamarckism run amok.

Lysenkoism had to do with propaganda and faslifying data. Lamarckism is the idea that characteristics acquired by an organism during its specific life can be passed onto its children.

Thanks for the lesson I already learned 35 years ago.

I find a connection, do you disagree?

Rrhain, FYI I don't necessarily consider condescension a virtue, especially when it's coming from you to me

This discussion is off-topic anyway, my fault.

Edited by anglagard, : play nice

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anglagard

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Message 252 of 268 (428179)
10-15-2007 5:02 AM

Reply to: Message 251 by IamJoseph
10-15-2007 4:53 AM

Repost

I think it is bad enough that you repost the same arguments, but do you have to literally repost the same post?

Edited by anglagard, : No reason given.

Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis Bacon

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