And therefore of all the ‘Seven Wonders of the World’ only the Great Pyramid has been preserved by the Lord as a witness to His Greatness, design and TIMING until the END. None of the others have been preserved and remain, only the GREAT PYRAMID of the Lord.
If this is true the Lord has done a pretty poor job of preserving it. Most of the cladding (for want of a better word) has long since been stripped off by the locals.
I would also venture that the 'Seven Wonders of the World' reference is a bit of a red herring. There's nothing special about the list - as pointed out on this Nova site it's just a list drawn up by a Greek in the fifth century B.C. (so it only includes stuff from around the Mediterranean).
Something just occurred to me. If God preserved the Great Pyramid why has He also made sure to preserve all those other pyramids in Egypt - including the other two at Giza ? Could it just be that it's pretty hard to destroy large, well built, more-or-less solid stone structures ?
In fact it's still pretty bad - he needs accuracy of 1/3 of an inch even to get the 365 figure (rather than 364 or 366). And we don't even have that. Then he needs to justify choosing that particular measurement, and say why it should be interpreted as the age of Enoch.
Do read the Book of Enoch, and do understand that the Earth circles the SUN in 365.24 days mor3e or less.
Why is that so important to you all. Let's talk about pyramidology.
Let's not strain at a gnat and swallow a camel.
Percy in response....(...)
So we need to establish whether you're actually making this claim or not. (Yes I calim that the Earth revolves around the SUN... let's move on, and let's get back to my or your search to see if the Great Pyramid is prophetic and fits the major historic events of TRUE HISTORY. Don't get so easily sidetracked... SEE all the new diagrams and postings so you can follow the passageways.... Don't get hung up in the ANTE Room..... )
It sounds like you're dropping your claim that the measurement has astronomical significance, (??????? Enoch lived 365 years, confiormation enough for me, that is 365 revolutions around the Sun of a 365.24 day revolution path. This pathway apparrently hasn;t changed much except maybe when Joshia asked the Lord to stop the movement of the SUN. But let's move on, to the major about the GP being prophetic) and that now you're only noting the correspondence to Enoch's age at death. Do I have this right? (Actually Enoch didn;t die, and designed the Pyramid after his departure. Read genesis)
Now that we know more precisely what you're claiming, (NO I'm exploring the great possibility that the GP is prophetic, and you are stuck inthe Ante Room... Onward Christian soldiers..) the important question is why you read any significance into the fact that when multipied by pi one of the dimensions of one of the structures of the Great Pyramid in inches is equal to the length of Enoch's life in years? (PLease expand on this.. Thanks. Now you have have an important confirmation or addition if you add explanations graphics etc..)
PS - When you reply to yourself it is difficult for people to tell who you're really replying to.
(I was taking you up the passageway, step by step, as I was doing the research, in my opinion..Therefore hitting the reply button to myself. I like progress and hate wasting time and so put forth opinions, and numbers and math, and years, to see if it makes sense and is mathematicalical and fits in with scriptures. Onward Christian soldiers.... Amen ?)
For the "Enoch Circle" you haven't even got an accuracy of one year.
Look if you want to admit that you can't defend the claim then go ahead and we can drop the matter. But if you do that then don't go repeating it until you CAN defend it.
As for your Daniel timeline so far as I can see it doesn't seem to have even started yet. Which is a bit of a problem since Daniel was writing about events more than 2000 years ago. So why not stick with things we can evaluate, before speculating on future events.
Do read the Book of Enoch, and do understand that the Earth circles the SUN in 365.24 days more or less.
About reading the Book of Enoch, we're not here so you can hand out reading assignments. You're expected to make your arguments in your messages, providing references as you see fit. If a particular passage from Enoch supports your point then quote the passage. Check out the Forum Guidelines, all this is explained there.
I can see getting clear answers from you isn't going to be easy. Is it now your position that the circumference of the Enoch Circle in inches is equal to Enoch's lifetime in years (which is why it's Enoch's circle and not someone else's) which is approximately equal to the length of the year in days?
The important question remains why you read any significance into the fact that when multipied by pi one of the dimensions of one of the structures of the Great Pyramid in inches is equal to the length of Enoch's life in years?
I was taking you up the passageway...
Well, it turns out you were all by yourself in the passageway. I suggest you not reply to yourself when you're actually addressing someone else.
PS - Click on the UBB Code in ON link so you can learn how to use the quoting features. It isnt' rocket science.
I apologise to everyone for bringing this up, but I couldn't let it pass. Davidjay, you say
Consequently the Giza location is also on the longest possible landmass line whether in longitude or latitude. And hence any true researcher has to come to the conclusion that the Great Pyramid’s very location was divinely inspired and NOT chosen by accident or chance.
Do you, perchance, have any evidence or calculations on the length of the landmass line in either direction that you can provide? If the GP isn't on the longest landmass line in either direction does that mean that the site WAS chosen by chance, since being on the longest landmass line leads to the inevitable conclusion that the site was divinely inspired?
Actually, the spot where the longest lines run is in India.
Because this was the topic of a very long drawn out discussion with WillowTree, it would be very helpful if you could track this down and provide the coordinates, as well as links to the data supporting this.
Can you confirm that Enoch never existed or did NOT build the Great Pyramid. Can you confirm that all the amzing exact mathematical and design and construction feats of the G.P., were all by accident or merely done by a bunch of labourers?
You can however say you don;t know. That I believe, but you can NOT claim that because you don;t know, that no one else can know, only that you don;t know. Remember you have to prove things to yourself. That's your job.
So here's the posting Enoch designed the G.P. I just composed it four days ago, and have found many more confirmations in the last few days... so onward Christian soldiers, as we measure the passage ways and confirm the Lord's Prophecy.
For surely the Lord God will do nothing except He revealeth His secrets unto His servants the prophets..... BEFORE THEY happen.
As for the sacred inch, try measuring your second digit, 1 ... the tip being .618 of 1 and so forth. My span is 9", and my elbow length is a cubit, my generatives at 3' or 2 cubits, my pineal third eye at 6' or 4 cubits, navel at exactly .618 of total, heart at 5'. if I remember right. Isn't the human body amazing.. YES it had to be the Lord, even though Enoch has been given credit for the inch measure in some writings. But do the search yourself... and prove it for yourself ... http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/Proveit.html
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One minute you complain about me not being specific and giving details, and when I do you complain that I ask you to figure out whether these detaisl are true according to your own measurements. and research.
I said I would logically and mathematically complete the passageway journey to show Prophecy, and I have been doing that step by step, to confirm points of alignment.
Today I shall post, the missing steps so that it is complete in my opinion. Make your own and prove things yourself from personal study. I can;t do that for you. Each must use their God given brains as that is part of the FIRST COMMANDMENT. Right ? Study to show thyself approved ? Remember those scriptures. Everyone has to study and do their part. Real teachers don;t spoon fed their students, as in rote learning, they each have to ask and answer questions themselves Right ?
The development of Egyptian pyramid-building starting with the Step Pyramid and on through later experiments like the "Bent Pyramid" is well known. In contrast your claims that Enoch had anything to do with the Great Pyramid are devoid of evidence.
Likewise your idea that measuring your body can somehow prove that the Pyramid builders used the inch.
What it comes down to is this. Your entire thesis is built on arbitary assumptions. Which makes it nothing more than an exercise in your own imagination - lacking any real significance at all.
No, never got into that, but it would be interesting. It is not the basis for my timeline at all, but because of the polar shift and the Christos Angle, the Dividing of the Earth in the Days of Peleg, I would be intresting in persuing that land mass if you or any can show it is of absolute importance.
I have read that there was only one land mass originally..which makes complete sense, and then it was split apart just as the Lord split apart the languages at the time of Babel and at the time of peleg. So maybe that's the solution, but I haven;t got into that yet. Let me know what you figure out ?
David and Trixie (as my wife's pen name is trixie as well, she's truly an angelic sprite and more)
I just wrote this, this morning, because of my recent arrival here at evc, so do correct my math or additions or multiplication or give your own measurements and historical corrections or confirmations.. It's just a rough draft, as I do like to make progress, and connect up loose ends if possible, because a principle of the Lord is that He has to reveal His mysteries, and He is exact and mathematical according to His Creation and creations. Anyway Here it tis. Hopefully mathematical responses will follow, rather than others... I'll put in more hypers and graphics as I compose them, or recompose them, until we get it right or close enough to tango.
Altar Stone to King’s Chamber
1674 A.D. to 2004 A.D.
To reach the climax and the end of our journey down and then up the Great Pyramid through its passageways and steps, we shall have to have taken the Great Leap of Faith in believing onto the Altar Stone.
So let’s calculate the time until the END if in fact an inch does correlate to one year, just as in all the other calculations in our spiritual journey and Man’s History. Well we established that the Great Step to its base was in the year 1614, but that’s not to the vertical apex 36 inches above. Because at that height, the distance from the start of the Grand gallery to its Altar Stone Step height is 91.36 cubits. (SEE http://repertorium.net/rostau/measures.html ) Converting this into inches, we get 91.36 x 18 = 1644 years. Therefore let’s now add this to the time when Jesus died, at 30 A.D. and we have 1644 + 30 = 1674 A.D. as the start of the horizontal clear passageway onto the King’s Chamber.
But how far is it to the entranceway of the King of Kings Chamber ? According to htt://www.benabraham.com and other sites, its 113 inches to the Ante Room, 116 inches across the Ante Room, and then 101 inches to the Entranceway of the Kings Chamber. Add these up and you get 113 + 116 + 101 = 330. Let’s convert this to years making this time frame …. 330 years. And amazingly this correlates directly to the Music of the Pyramid, as 3 times 110 hertz is 330. Because 110 hertz is the resonance frequency for Granite and the Pyramid ( SEE 29 Steps).
But prophecy wise, if we add 330 years to 1674 A.D. we get 2004 A.D. This year !!! So does this mean we have just entered into the King’s Chamber in time.
Well, there still exists a mystery because Enoch said very specifically that there would be 7,000 years until New Heaven and New Earth, arrived, and it would be 1,000 years after the start of the Lord’s Millennium. And if we add 6,000 years to 4004 B.C. the time of Creation, then apparently our 6,000 year’s of man’s rule ended in 1997 A.D. (SEE 1,000 Year divisions and 6,000 Years of World History)
We are 7 years past that time, and we still have 7 more years to go before the End according to the very specific and exact timeframe of Daniel and John the revelator and all the Lord’s Prophets. (SEE Daniel and Revelation timeline)
So there is a difference of 7 inches or years in the Descent and Ascent of the passageways to the Kings Chamber. For instead of being 6000 inches exactly, it seems to be 6007 inches. Does this make sense, Well in True Church History, Jacob who became Israel had to serve Laban 7 years for Leah, and then 7 more years for the bride he truly loved…Rachel. (Genesis) So there’s where the additional 7 years to 2004 comes in and the 7 more years of additional service in the world to find the true lovers and bride of the bridegroom. This being our job and ministry from here to the End….. Find the Lost Sheep and the Bride of Christ ( SEE Bride of Christ in O.T.) to present to Him at His Coming. ( SEE confirmations in the Christ Triangle, Additional 14 Years ).
Do you love the Lord of Lords ? Are you part of His Bride ? Are you ready for His Coming ? It’s NOT now, but there isn’t long to wait, as in 3 and a half years, when the tribulation starts, the lines will have been drawn and the seals and marks distributed. Whose side are you on ?
Please correct or confirm, so we can get this right by responding on-line or write Davidjayjordan@yahoo.com
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I just wrote this , this morning, so do correct my math or additions or multiplication or give your own measurements and historical corrections or confirmations.. It's just a rough draft, as I do like to make progress, and connect up loose ends if possible, because a principle of the Lord is that He has to reveal His mysteries, and He is exact and mathematical according to His Creation and creations. Anyway Here it tis. Hopefully mathematical responses will follow, rather than others...
Flood til the Crucifixion
2348 B.C. to 30.A.D.
There’s a mystery hidden between the timing of the Flood and the timing of the Messiah, when it comes to the Great Pyramid Prophecy. From history we have established that the worldwide Flood of Noah happened in 2348 B.C. and the Messiah was crucified in 30 A.D. Matter of fact this last date was exactly predicted by the prophet Daniel, who stated that 69 weeks (or 7 times 69 years) would take place between the efforts to rebuild the Temple until the Messiah (SEE Timeline Prophecy). Hence we know the Lord sometimes uses mathematical prophecy to declare His Coming including the signs in the astronomical sky (SEE Messianic Story written in the Stars). And yet the Great Pyramid isn’t that straight forward when it comes to His Timing.
Yes, His exact life story is written in the ‘Christ Triangle’ from 4 B.C. to 30 A.D. covering His 33.512 years here on Earth and correlates exactly to the Queens Chamber. But to transverse from 4004 B.C. to 4 B.C. or 2/3rds of the World’s 6,000 Year History (SEE 1000 Year Divisions and 6000 Years of History) seems only to be exact in the pyramidology scale of one inch equals one year, if the Ascending Passageway is extended by an imaginary line to an extension of the slope line of the Great Pyramid. This (apparently) equaling approximately 3999.999 inches or 4,000 years, according to earlier pyramidologists. (SEE web Graphics at http://bahaullah.net/pyramid/Date_for_Adam/date_foradam.htm)
But what about a direct correlation, as if we personally were transversing the passageways from the Entrance down the Descending Passage way, and then upwards up the Ascending Passageway until we reached the victory of the Cross.
Well, as we found out the Descending Passageway has a distance of 1536 inches and translates into 1536 years. Add this onto 4004 B.C. and we get 2468 A.D. This I have said was the timing that the fallen Angels mated with the daughters of men. Add 20 years until Noah was told to build His ARK and 120 Years until the Flood started, and you have the Flood arriving in 2348 B.C. (SEE Entrance to the Pit).
But the Ascending Passageway to Jesus death and Resurrection is ONLY 75.02 cubits This translates into 112’ or 1350 inches, meaning 1350 years more until the Resurrection unless we are missing something. Why because Jesus didn’t die 1350 years after 2348. B.C. But maybe that measurement was inaccurate not including the time in building the ARK of 120 years or 10 feet, because of the transition from Descending to Ascending Convergence. And if using this figure of 1470 inches, from Flood to Resurrection. And multiply it by PHI (1.618) or the Golden Section, which is the very template of the Great Pyramid and the source of power and magnification (SEE Golden Section) then 1470 x 1.618 = 2378. And if this is converted into inches then it becomes 2378 years until the Resurrection. And Lo and Behold 2378 years after the
Smaller is to the larger what the larger is to the whole…. 1470 being the larger, and the whole being 2378. This 2378 years being added to 2348 B.C (Flood) and we get 30 A.D., the timing of the Lord’s victorious death. Coincidence, I think not..
A Phi expansion, exists in my opinion up the Ascending Passageway until the greatest event of ALL History, the death that conquered ALL DESCENT and can elevate us to the Stars. (SEE Phi projection to the Stars) via His Salvation.