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Author Topic:   YEC approaches to empirical investigation
Thugpreacha
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Message 269 of 303 (261942)
11-21-2005 11:48 AM
Reply to: Message 266 by Faith
11-21-2005 11:37 AM


Re: My God vs. your God
Faith writes:

If the true God said it, that IS empirical. Yours said nothing by the way, only the God of the Bible has spoken.


Hold up, Faith...lets examine this a moment. For the sake of argument, assume that Mooses "God" was human wisdom. As Clint Eastwood said, "We are legends in our own minds!"

Websters writes:

empiricism \im-pir-e-si-zem, em-\ n : the practice of relying on observation and experiment esp. in the natural sciences empiricist \-sist\ n

So....for the sake of the argument, one side asserts God a-priori..(You and I) whereas the other side quite probably asserts that collective human wisdom plus established methods of observation and verification=facts.

Just as oil and water do not mix, neither does Faith and Science.

I am glad to see that you are back, by the way....care to hang around a bit and administrate some of the Faith/Belief topics? We sure do miss your tenacious and persistant apologetics! :)

This message has been edited by Phat, 11-21-2005 09:54 AM


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Holy Spirit,speaking through the Apostle Paul

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Thugpreacha
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Message 272 of 303 (261951)
11-21-2005 12:09 PM
Reply to: Message 271 by Faith
11-21-2005 11:52 AM


Re: Debates seldom happen here
Faith...come up to chat....we need to talk :)

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Thugpreacha
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Message 274 of 303 (261957)
11-21-2005 12:21 PM
Reply to: Message 273 by crashfrog
11-21-2005 12:12 PM


Re: Debates seldom happen here
The Flood is a parable and an absolute lesson in morality...whether or not is was a literal event is irrelevant

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Thugpreacha
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Message 288 of 303 (261977)
11-21-2005 1:03 PM
Reply to: Message 276 by Faith
11-21-2005 12:35 PM


Re: Debates seldom happen here
Faith writes:

everybody just wants to assert their own pet assumption and ignore the topic here which is about how the YEC premise always gets overridden by the EvC premises.

But Faith....you and your assumptions are also being posted at EvC so you too are part of the "EvC premise." Sheeeesh!

As a believer, I DO have some deep issues that are crucial to my faith. YEC premises are not one of them. Just out of curiousity, why do YOU feel so passionate about defending and asserting them?

Faith writes:

Follow the logic. IF God has spoken on a subject, not accepting what God has said is not an option.

OK...lets follow the logic. The King and Creator of this vast universe is not going to limit His spoken wisdom to one literal book on one dustspeck of a planet. Give God SOME credit!

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