Creationism museum opens in Alberta

Judging by the discussion in this thread, it really belongs in the [forum=-11] forum, so I'm moving it there. Before doing that, I'd like to make a few points.First, a discussion thread is not a chat room. The discussion board format permits deliberation, study, thought and reflection. When you find yourself exchanging very short messages with the same person or persons every couple minutes, please post a message suggesting that everyone go to the EvC Forum Chat Room.Second, threads have topics, not to limit discussion, but to keep discussion focused. The topic of this thread, judging from the discussion so far, concerns science museums and their responsibility for accurate representation.Third, I am the 3rd moderator to post here in the past 24 hours. Obviously what moderators have observed in this thread is causing concern, so let me explicitly caution participants to focus on their discussion on the topic, and not on the people they're discussing with.

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--	Percy
	EvC Forum Director

Thread moved here from the Coffee House forum.

Participants are reminded to keep discussion focused on the topic, which is science museums and their responsibility for accurate representation.

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--	Percy
	EvC Forum Director

[forum=-14] is one of the Side Order forums. This is the description of the [forum=-14] forum that appears on the Forums List page: EvC Forum is for discussion of topics and issues related to the creation/evolution controversy, and creation museums are definitely related to the creation/evolution controversy. It does not fit in the category of "other topics". Topics introduced to the [forum=-14] forum that are actually related to the controversy are usually moved to the proper forum.

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--	Percy
	EvC Forum Director

Hi Keys,Though this is a reply to you, much of this is intended for everyone.First, I agree with you that Jar should not engage in name calling, such as his Christian Cult of Ignorance. I see little difference between calling someone's beliefs ignorant and calling the person himself ignorant.Second, I would prefer that no one refer to someone else's position as a lie. Call it unsupported by evidence or unsubstantiated or made up, but do not call it a lie. The intention is to discourage inflammatory language that gets in the way of meaningful dialogue.Third, about this: Nowhere in the Forum Guidelines will you find it stated that the thread's originator defines the rules in his thread, and this is because thread originators have no such privilege. Thread originators propose their topic, and if approved and promoted then discussion takes place under the same set Forum Guidelines that apply to all threads.Fourth, if your position is actually that the Ken Ham museum and the Alberta museum are not actually science museums but Bible museums, and that you think the opening of more Bible museums should be encouraged, then I can move this thread to [forum=-6].

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--	Percy
	EvC Forum Director

Hi Keys,I am gradually reading my way through the incredible number of messages posted to this thread last night, and I've decided to respond to each message that deserves administrative comment as I encounter it, rather than respond in a single message when I'm done reading.This is a debate site where the intention is that people makes points, other people rebut them, and then other people rebut the rebuttals, and so forth. The single word sentence, "Nonsense" is not rebuttal. I've already quoted the Forum Guidelines to you once, and here is the relevant guideline again:

4. Points should be supported with evidence and/or reasoned argumentation. Address rebuttals through the introduction of additional evidence or by enlarging upon the argument. Do not repeat previous points without further elaboration. Avoid bare assertions.

Please help the discussion become a substantive exchange of ideas and information.

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--	Percy
	EvC Forum Director

This kind of language is more likely to inflame than to prompt measured and thoughtful responses. Please conduct the discussion in a manner conducive to the productive exchange of ideas and information.

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--	Percy
	EvC Forum Director

I've finished reading the thread.Meaningful discussion is built upon reliable information and evidence. Much of what I've seen from Keys in this thread is a strong reluctance to discuss information and evidence, and he has several times said he doesn't want a science discussion. He seems to want to discuss the presentation of Bible stories in a museum format.Since Keys participates at a time when I am asleep, rather than waiting 24 hours for an exchange of messages I will now transfer this thread to [forum=-6] where there is no requirement to keep discussion scientific or even based upon actual real-world evidence.

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--	Percy
	EvC Forum Director

Thread copied to the Creationism museum opens in Alberta thread in the Faith and Belief forum, this copy of the thread has been closed.