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Author Topic:   Creationism museum opens in Alberta
Vacate
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Message 2 of 161 (404314)
06-08-2007 4:05 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by simple
06-08-2007 3:23 AM


How noodly be thy appendage?
My wife told me about this several days ago. Thanks for the reminder as I fogot to make a post about it!
CBC News = Creationism museum to open in Alberta
keys writes:
I think this is a good thing. A great thing. Long overdue.
Do you also consider a museum that promotes the Flying Spagetti Monster also a "great thing" and "long overdue"?
Not because all the science is perfect, any more than it might be for the evolution proponents, but, because children deserve faith.
Interesting that you would promote the museum on the grounds of a need for faith and not on the grounds that you feel a problem in science. If you have no problem with science, would it not be better to supply faith in some other method? Perhaps church or a theology class would be a better method of providing faith.
I would not be surprised if many in different states and countries opened up over the next decade or so.
It would not suprise me at all. I find it sad that instead of progress things seem to be slipping backwards in the progress of science. With fights in court and the building of such museums I would not be suprised if my great grandchildren believe the Earth to be flat and illness is caused by evil spirits.

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Vacate
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Message 38 of 161 (404531)
06-09-2007 1:31 AM
Reply to: Message 24 by simple
06-09-2007 12:38 AM


Re: How Sweet it is!
keys writes:
What, exactly is Creationist "science"??
I am not really sure, what I do know is its not science.
Why would I think something that does not exist is great?
No idea. I am trying to find a baseline to understand why you think that creationist lies are any different than the FSM and its comical alternative. I don't see how you can differentiate the two.
Illness can be caused by evil spirits
You have any proof of this? I am sure there are thousands of doctors who are interested in their job security.
why not let the creation of the bible be taught, even with imperfect science
Why not let creation science publish perfect science? Its not like the rules are secret. Why should you advocate "imperfect science", do you make a habit of such things in other areas or only when it comes to science?
I don't feel that science really comes into the picture all that much.
Ahh. So we do agree on something!
After all, how much science is in the pre big bang stories?
None, but what does this have to do with creationist lies?

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Vacate
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Message 90 of 161 (404695)
06-09-2007 6:44 AM
Reply to: Message 46 by simple
06-09-2007 1:51 AM


Re: How Sweet it is!
Vacate writes:
None, but what does this have to do with creationist lies?
Keys writes:
Well, you claim that the universe started at some point where you have no, as you put it "none" proof at all at all at all.
Actually this is not what I claimed. The original statement you made was "How much science is in the pre Big Bang Stories?". My answer was "none". If you care to supply me with some quotes or links about what science claims was factual about a PRE big bang I would be quite interested to see it. At this point I stand by my statement that there is no science in this field.
Keys writes:
OK, so you talk about things you do not know about at all.
That is not what I said nor what I implied. I do know about so called "creation science". I am well aware of its claims, I am well aware that each and every claim I have looked into is easily disputed, I am also well aware that they have done nothing to progress science. So you ask "What exactly is creation science?" and I answer - I do not know. It is certainly not science. If you care to explain what it is besides an empty void; false scientific claims and easily disproved hypothesis, I would be overjoyed.
Keys writes:
I am trying to find a baseline to understand why you think that standard universe origin lies are any different than the FSM and its comical alternative.
Evidence. Textbooks, scientists, whole fields of research producing repeatable results. The flying spaghetti monster has no such luxury - hence my reasons for comparing FSM to creation science.
Keys writes:
Why bring up doctors??
You make the claim that illness is caused by evil spirits and you do not think that doctors should be informed? All the years of scientific research into the health industry and years of training by these doctors and its all wrong? If an exorcist can replace doctors I do firmly believe that they should be informed.
Keys writes:
Do you have any proof it is not so?
You want me to prove that there is no such thing as evil spirits that cause people illness? Besides the entire field of medical research ... Are you serious?
Who says the museums are based on science any more than your claims of some early big bang?
Join the science threads and show me the evidence. Please. I mean I really am interested to read just one bit of evidence that shows a 6000 year Earth.

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Vacate
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Message 92 of 161 (404702)
06-09-2007 7:20 AM
Reply to: Message 61 by simple
06-09-2007 2:11 AM


Re: How noodly be thy appendage?
Keys writes:
What about those talking about the FSM??? You aren't ragging on them. Why?
I brought up the FSM as a comparative to creation science. I would still like to know if you support the building of FSM museums. A more direct question is - Should people be overjoyed when museums are built on fantasy, mythology, or lies? What about if such museums are built yet portray these ideas as facts?
I am not talking about the FSM. I am asking you if you are overjoyed at fantasy museums possibly being created and marketed to children as truth.
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I got through this thread after I replied to your post #46. I see now that you do not wish to present your evidence, nor address any of the issues presented in the science threads.
Are you claiming that the science threads are based on evidence? If so, what parts of the evidence? All of it, or just the narrow, piddly little cultish bits of fleshly stuff they chose there??
What you could do - present the evidence that you feel you have that contradicts the evidence that science has. Being that the topic would be yours people would have to abide by the forum rules and stay within that line of thought.

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Vacate
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Message 153 of 161 (405068)
06-11-2007 2:06 AM
Reply to: Message 151 by simple
06-11-2007 1:20 AM


Re: BeingChristian does not mean you must remain ignorant.
On the contrary, I have no need to prove what is well known.
Does this mean you refuse to present the evidence you promised?
The reason you have no evidence is because you ignore it.
Ahh, but when RAZD provided a piece of evidence you chose to ignore it. You also have refused to take part in any other thread and provide evidence to back up your claims.
What position? That there is no God??? I thought you just said there was no evidence? Make up your mind.
This is being blatantly dishonest.

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