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Mammuthus
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Message 2 of 14 (17781)
09-19-2002 1:09 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by outblaze
09-19-2002 10:30 AM


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Originally posted by outblaze:
pleassssssse, can any of you help this poster :
http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?s=c89b7e5a94419b8be60...
Originally posted by Martinm
What I, and most scientists, do object to is people trying to replace science with religion. Religion per se is not a problem. If you want to believe that the world was created 6000 years ago, that's your business. Expecting it to be taught in science class, or given any credence by the scientific community is another matter.

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Looks like this poster is the only one with a functional brain on the Rapture forum..LOL!!!!
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"What is the ``scientific method''?
1. Observe some aspect of the universe.
2. Invent a tentative description, called a hypothesis, that is consistent with what you have observed.
3. Use the hypothesis to make predictions.
4. Test those predictions by experiments or further observations and modify the hypothesis in the light of your results.
5. Repeat steps 3 and 4 until there are no discrepancies between theory and experiment and/or observation.
When consistency is obtained the hypothesis becomes a theory and provides a coherent set of propositions which explain a class of phenomena. A theory is then a framework within which observations are explained and predictions are made. "
To me, the last paragraph should be step 6...
So, evolution meets steps 1-3, but fails on 4-6. It is not testable, not reproduceable, and not verifiable. In fact, if we really are honest, it also fails on step 1 as it is not observable. Different species being here is, but evolution is not. So evolution does not fit any of secular science's requirements outside of being a hypothesis. So its not science.
But it SURE fits the definition of religion to a T.
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Only if you ignore thousands of reproducible studies in diverse fields such as paleontology, developmental biology, and molecular biology. That you cannot understand how evolution is a testable hypothesis is a clear indicator that an education beyond the kindergarten level is required.
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True and pure science would say this - The earth is older than we are. There have been animals alive longer than we ourselves. Some of these animals, to our knowledge, are not alive any longer. Some of these animals have died and their bones have been burried and fossilized.
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Ok, define true and pure science since it is clear you don't know what science is in the first place
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That's it. Anything more adds untestable, unreproduceable, unverifiable religously held belifes to the facts. The Bible becomes MORE reliable than anything else because science is making guesses, but God was actually THERE when it happened to tell us how it happened.
Bless...ArtS
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And now you are going to explain how this fits with the scientific method you claim evolution fails? Since god does not exist...she could not have been anywhere....
1. Observe some aspect of the universe (can't observe god, test FAILED)
2. Invent a tentative description, called a hypothesis, that is consistent with what you have observed.(Since cant do 1 this doesnt work either..so develop silly myth)
3. Use the hypothesis to make predictions. (hypothesis...there is a god...predictions..NONE)
4. Test those predictions by experiments or further observations and modify the hypothesis in the light of your results.(Can't test for existence of god)
5. Repeat steps 3 and 4 until there are no discrepancies between theory and experiment and/or observation. (Nothing but discrepancies between the bible and the natural world)
6. Realize that creationism is stupid but must cling to faith or other dumb dumbs won't give me beer
7. Solution. Have brain removed and take heavy drugs and then creationism suddenly makes sense again.
8. Post nonesense on boards like the Rapture forum
9. Feel happy since ignorance is bliss

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