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randman 
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Message 57 of 76 (462217)
04-01-2008 3:31 PM
Reply to: Message 56 by Dr Adequate
03-31-2008 7:27 AM


It's curious that evos would cite bacteria evolution as evidence for their theories since the form is remarkably stable. As of today, we've never seen bacteria evolve into anything else.

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Message 60 of 76 (462221)
04-01-2008 4:07 PM
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04-01-2008 3:38 PM


By that definition, creationists are evolutionists.

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Message 61 of 76 (462222)
04-01-2008 4:08 PM
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04-01-2008 3:54 PM


Randman is sure that his definition of evolution has never been observed. Note how he lumps all of "bacteria" into a single "form."

Rand(straw?)man is yet another of the misguided Creationists

So is de Grasse just a misguided creationists?

LOL


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Message 63 of 76 (462229)
04-01-2008 5:23 PM
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04-01-2008 4:09 PM


One more comment: you don't seem to be aware that posting the definition is not a legitimate response. As I stated before, creationists are evolutionists under that definition.

Perhaps expressing things a different way can help you get your mind around the issue.

The existence of evolution (under this definition) does not make the Theory of Evolution true. They are 2 different things. Merely calling the The Theory of Evolution "evolution" does not make it so.


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Message 66 of 76 (462250)
04-01-2008 8:26 PM
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04-01-2008 7:18 PM


If you don't understand something this simple, ......

First off, it's not something solely described by the theory of evolution. It's just a normal fact described by creationists, IDers, evos and whoever else has any ideas out there. Things reproduce after their own kind but not exact duplicates. I doubt anyone has not known this since the beginning of recorded history. It's certainly not novel to Darwinists.

Secondly, just because you use the same word "evolution" to describe heritable change and the theory of evolution does not make them the same thing.

Thirdly, there is absolutely no reason to assume microevolution which we know decreases genetic diversity is macroevolution which requires an increase in genetic diversity and massive one at that is microevolution writ large.

In other words, despite evos like you insisting otherwise, merely saying something doesn't make it so.

Edited by randman, : No reason given.

Edited by randman, : No reason given.


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Message 68 of 76 (462259)
04-02-2008 1:07 AM
Reply to: Message 67 by teen4christ
04-01-2008 10:07 PM


teen, I understand it fully, but this is a direction admin has stated we cannot debate here. Just keep in mind when you say "evolution", don't equate several different meanings into one.

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