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cavediver
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Message 16 of 76 (403969)
06-06-2007 4:59 AM
Reply to: Message 15 by Archer Opteryx
06-06-2007 4:42 AM


Re: Those proud, rebellious YECs
...for almost a week now.

ROTFLMAO :laugh:


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Archer Opteryx
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Message 17 of 76 (403970)
06-06-2007 5:01 AM
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04-14-2007 12:59 AM


duplicate
Sorry. See next post.

Edited by Archer Opterix, : html.

Edited by Archer Opterix, : ongoing quest for literary perfection.

Edited by Archer Opterix, : duplicate.


Archer

All species are transitional.


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Archer Opteryx
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Message 18 of 76 (403971)
06-06-2007 5:12 AM
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04-14-2007 12:59 AM


The Trilemma
I have only one concern about introducing this subject in science classes: how will the Flying Spaghetti Monster be presented?

I am trying here to prevent anyone saying the really foolish thing that people often say about Him: 'I’m ready to accept the Flying Spaghetti Monster as a great dinner option, but I don’t accept His claim to be God.' That is the one thing we must not say. An entrée who says the sort of things the FSM says would not be great cuisine. He would either be a lunatic — on a level with the grilled salmon who says he is a poached egg — or else he would be the Devil's Food Cake from Hell.

You must make your choice. Either this pasta dish has been, and is, Absolute Deity: or else pure poison or something worse. You can throw Him on the walls as a fool, you can spit Him up and wash Him down the trash disposer as a demon; or you can fall at His swirling feet and call Him Lord and God. But let us not come with any patronizing nonsense about His being a decent gastronomic experience. He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to.

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Archer

All species are transitional.


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Message 19 of 76 (408346)
07-02-2007 1:07 AM


* The Argument From Technology

Creationists admit that less than seventy years elapsed between the first brief flight in a plane by the Wright Brothers and men walking on the moon --- and yet they claim that "thousands and thousands" of years elapsed between creation and the first plane. Can anyone take this seriously? If we were created "thousands and thousands of years ago", then by now we'd have interstellar colonies.

According to creationist dogma, the Egyptians built the Pyramids "thousands and thousands" of years ago. These so-called "Egyptians" can't have been stupid. So why didn't they invent the airplane?


  
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Message 20 of 76 (408348)
07-02-2007 1:19 AM


* Bishop Bell's Tomb

Bishop Bell's tomb was supposedly made "hundreds and hundreds of years ago". But it has a dinosaur carved on it. Now, we have evidence that dinosaurs are roaming the earth today (see above) but no evidence that they did so hundreds and hundreds of years ago, and no pictures of dinosaurs earlier than the so-called "nineteenth century" (according to conventional creationist dating). This proves that artifacts supposedly "hundreds and hundreds of years old" are in fact modern, for how else could they feature a modern motif such as a dinosaur?


  
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Message 21 of 76 (412841)
07-26-2007 12:56 PM


* Short-lived isotopes

I just saw a fundie post this on another forum:

"But, explain polonium rings appearing in rocks. If Polonium has a half life of a few milliseconds, then how could it form in rocks? That's one of many but you can chew on that for a while."

Tee-hee.


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Message 22 of 76 (437225)
11-29-2007 10:58 AM


Some far out ideas here. However the bible simply says "in the bebinning God created" It does not give a definite time to when that was - thousands, millions, billions of years ago. It doesn't say. It further describes the events taking place in connection with the earth as occuring over periods of time called days. The term day can refer to various time periods not limited to 24 hours.

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Message 23 of 76 (437295)
11-29-2007 2:41 PM
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07-26-2007 12:56 PM


* Short-lived isotopes

I just saw a fundie post this on another forum:

"But, explain polonium rings appearing in rocks. If Polonium has a half life of a few milliseconds, then how could it form in rocks? That's one of many but you can chew on that for a while."

Tee-hee.

Naturally Occuring Polonium Isotopes

ISOTOPE HALF LIFE

210 138.4 days
211 0.516 seconds
212 0.298 microseconds
214 163.7 microseconds
215 1.78 milliseconds
216 0.145 seconds
218 3.04 minutes
Handbook of Chemistry & Physics 2007

the 210 isotope has a half life long enough to build up and reach equilibrium as long as the parent Uranium 238, Uranium 235 or Thorium 232 has not completely decayed.

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Message 24 of 76 (437299)
11-29-2007 3:20 PM


Neither creationalist teaching ie earth created in 6 24 hr days or evolution agree with the evidence.

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Message 25 of 76 (437300)
11-29-2007 3:27 PM
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11-29-2007 3:20 PM


This is a joke thread, fred.

fred writes:

Neither creationalist teaching ie earth created in 6 24 hr days or evolution agree with the evidence. Neither creationalist teaching ie earth created in 6 24 hr days or evolution agree with the evidence.

If you'd like to enlighten us on what does fit with the evidence, why not start a thread, or pick one that already exists and suits your choice of subject?


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Message 26 of 76 (438505)
12-05-2007 12:05 AM
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04-14-2007 12:59 AM


Creationists believe that the universe was created thousands and thousands of years ago by a dog. This is where the word "dogma" comes from.

I guess the individual who transcribed the occurance was dislectic and "dog" became "god."


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Larni
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Message 27 of 76 (438512)
12-05-2007 3:21 AM
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06-05-2007 10:29 PM


Demouse writes:

because in a dream you do not know you are dreaming.

This is not true, see lucid dreaming.

Demouse writes:

theres a syndrome where you think that everyone is a figment of your imagination

Sounds similar to one conceptualization of Autism.

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Larni
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Message 28 of 76 (438513)
12-05-2007 3:28 AM
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11-29-2007 10:58 AM


fred writes:

The term day can refer to various time periods not limited to 24 hours.

Quite so.

It is obvious that the bible should not be taken literally because it will refer to many things that obviously make no sense.

Welcome to the fray :)

Edited by Larni, : No reason given.


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Message 29 of 76 (440635)
12-13-2007 10:37 PM


good satire. you forgot about the wolly mammoth herd inside the high voltage electric fence at the south pole

  
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Message 30 of 76 (449859)
01-19-2008 1:39 PM
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04-14-2007 12:59 AM


"* "Thousands And Thousands Of Years" Is Unfalsifiable

One of the criteria for a theory to be scientific is that is must be "falsifiable". The "thousands and thousands of years" theory is unfalsifiable. I just thought I'd mention this before getting back to producing my proof that it's false. No, I have never been troubled by cognitive dissonance."

If it's unfalsifiable, then how do you claim to be falsifying it eh, stupid?

And by the way, the earth is'nt "thousands and thousands" of years old. It's billions, around, say, 4.55 billion.


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