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Author Topic:   Is ID Scientific? (was "Abusive Assumptions")
robinrohan
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Message 157 of 292 (230137)
08-05-2005 11:27 AM
Reply to: Message 156 by Evopeach
08-05-2005 10:49 AM


computers and DNA
Now if I find in life processes a real code residing on but in chemistry and matter and directing other matter to perform real work, real tasks of such complexity as to far exceed any analagous functionality humanity can demonstrate and I know that scientists do precisely acomplish the same starting with their intelligence and "hybridizing it onto matter" and that such activities cannot be in any way shown to develop those abilities alone and naturally and innately then it would seem very logical to conclude that an outside source of intelligence had at the beginning designed that system and "hybridized" it onto the matter. Since that is what a scientist does every day.
You seem to be saying in a rather overblown prose style that the DNA code is like a set of instructions in a computer. And since an intelligence made the set of instructions, then an intelligence had to make the set of instructions in the genetic code. I thought the "information" transmitted by the genetic code was just a bunch of complicated, automatic chemical events. Like if you mix yellow and blue paint together you get green paint. Is that the "hybridization of logos on matter"?
"The hybridization of logos on matter" seems a rather odd way of putting it. I use my logos to understand the game of baseball, and I hybridize my logos onto matter by throwing the ball in a particular direction that I have predetermined with a baseball algorhythm.
Or we get a bunch of barrels and place them in various positions out on some prairie, and get some people together and issue a set of instructions to them about the filling and emptying of these barrels. They have to be either full or empty, nothing in between. So if barrel A is empty, Barrel L, say, has to be full, and so on. If we get enough barrels and enough people, we have about one megabyte. That's all a computer does, except that it does it invisibly and quickly by electronic means, which makes it seem more mysterious.
We use matter, but I don't think we are infusing it with intelligence.
This message has been edited by robinrohan, 08-05-2005 10:28 AM

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