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Author Topic:   On The Philosophy of, well, Philosophy
jar
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Message 39 of 307 (430779)
10-27-2007 12:15 PM
Reply to: Message 38 by Jon
10-27-2007 12:09 PM


Re: Life after Science
Should it be illegal
to take the life
of another human?
At times.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 181 of 307 (432263)
11-04-2007 11:26 PM
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11-04-2007 9:56 PM


Re: The Philosophy Parade”part 1
The question is "whether truth is of any value or not, or is it sufficient to have something truthful enough to work with?"
I mean, so the Earth goes around the Sun... now what?
Well we use the little truths we find, the knowledge, in many ways. Because we know that the earth goes around the sun, we can calculate how to throw something and have it hit the intended target. That in turn lets us go out and determine the composition of comets and asteroids and those in turn tell us more about the earth we live on, maybe even ultimately about how we became we.
What do we do with all of this 'truthful reality' that we suddenly 'know'?
What we do with all the "truthful realities" is use them as stepping stones to learn more about how things work, and learning how things work is the first step in learning how to make them work as we would like.
Personally, I would say that one Josiah Wedgwood is worth 50 or 100 Platos.

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jar
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Message 184 of 307 (432266)
11-04-2007 11:45 PM
Reply to: Message 182 by Archer Opteryx
11-04-2007 11:36 PM


Re: The Philosophy Parade”part 1
I think a difference, if there is one, is on how much effect certain knowledge contributes to mankind as a whole. The difference between a Josiah Wedgwood and a Plato is that Josiah was able to replace the porous wood dishes and bowls poor folk were using with china that could be cleaned and sanitized easier. That in turn immediately reduced sickness and improved health for the very lowest levels of society.
I think the value of knowledge is in whether or not it improves the standard of living for the general populus.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 186 of 307 (432269)
11-05-2007 12:05 AM
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11-05-2007 12:01 AM


Re: The Philosophy Parade”part 1
I mean, what reason is there for changing things?
Lots of reasons. Reduce pain, extend functioning, make things more available, make them less expensive, add additional functions.
All small reasons, the best kind.

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Message 188 of 307 (432271)
11-05-2007 12:28 AM
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11-05-2007 12:06 AM


Re: The Philosophy Parade”part 1
I really don't much care what label someone puts on it. Frankly, I find that a waste of time and talent. If someone what to stick some label on it then that is their wasted energy.
Edited by jar, : No reason given.

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