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tesla
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Message 296 of 305 (451339)
01-27-2008 10:51 AM
Reply to: Message 295 by RAZD
05-03-2007 9:22 PM


Re: whose perception of which greater reality?
i have given laws that are reality, but science ignores, and most don't comprehend, and the lack of comprehension means something is "supernatural".
in reality, nothing outside of energy is real. if no energy at all, there is nothing to measure, nothing to be, nothing that exists, thees nothing. so it cant be real, its not there.
so by observing what is energy, knowing nothing outside of energy is real, cause it don't exist, we can determine where energy is that we cant see, because of what we do see.
this is reality.
by this law, something can "apparently" come form nothing, but something cant "literally" come from nothing.
Edited by tesla, : No reason given.

keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
~parmenides

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tesla
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Message 299 of 305 (451425)
01-27-2008 5:04 PM
Reply to: Message 298 by RAZD
01-27-2008 4:59 PM


Re: whose perception of which greater reality?
What if two somethings that add up to nothing happen? How would you know one something from two?
are you serious? you cannot take something, and then get nothing. prove that.
the law: energy cannot be created or destroyed:
was established by the observation that you cannot take something, and then make nothing.
the burning of wood would appear to destroy the wood, but it was changed in form from what it once was, to another thing.
so also, can you not have something from literally nothing, but only from something, can something be. because if there is no energy at all, literally nothing, then nothing can come of it, and it isn't real.

keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
~parmenides

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tesla
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Message 301 of 305 (451454)
01-27-2008 6:42 PM
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01-27-2008 6:33 PM


Re: whose perception of which greater reality?
Are you talking about the physics in the current cooled universe? In that case particles appear and disappear all the time
exactly. "appear" being the key.
if truly nothing, nothing comes of nothing. which means although nothing is "apparent" we know because something is, that the nothing part is only apparent, and that there is "something" we cant see.

keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
~parmenides

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tesla
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Message 303 of 305 (451517)
01-27-2008 10:18 PM
Reply to: Message 302 by RAZD
01-27-2008 10:12 PM


Re: whose perception of which greater reality?
Subatomic particles pop in and out of existence in our universe.
FALSE. they apparently do. but do not. because they return. this means they are going somewhere you can't see, or are looking for it in the wrong place.

keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
~parmenides

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