Best evidence for Creation

What you mean by this is "At some point in time the Universe did not exist." and "At this point in time the Universe does exist."As time is an integral part of the Universe ” time doesn't exist without the Universe ” there has never been a point in time that the Universe has not existed. So how could it be said, in any normal sense of the phrase, that the Universe came into existence?Edited by lyx2no, : To make sense.

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KindlyEveryone deserves a neatly dug grave. It is the timing that's in dispute.One hot lesbian.

Are we pretending we have an intellectual understanding of imaginary time? Or are we just using it as one of our magic phrases to fudge our argument to save us from having to admit we are drawing a blank when it comes to how the Universe really works? Why would we convince ourselves of such a thing when we must realize that the honest position would be to admit complete ignorance? Firstly, their writings are chock full of anthropomorphism and vernacular. It's a limitation of the language that we adjust for ourselves so as not belabor the writer. We don't believe that an apple feels the force of gravity drawing it to the Earth do we? Secondly, the speculations of scientists are not evidence of anything but their own ignorance, which they are admitting. Surely, their brand of ignorance is far superior to our brand of knowledge, and that is more the reason to admit our own.[sarcasm]I think this might be one of those rare occasions where we would learn more by asking questions and listening to the answers then by doggedly insisting that we know the true nature of the Universe.[/sarcasm]

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KindlyEveryone deserves a neatly dug grave. It is the timing that's in dispute.One hot lesbian.

No one knows how the Universe works. Using a television as an analogy; cavediver could adjust the beam compensators, I could change the channel, and you could put a doily on top of it. Yes, but I don't think Brian merely intended that we assign those things we might consider evidence ordinals but to discuss the quality of their evidentiary value. Making a statement conditional does not protect the statement from examination. Especially when the statement has the form: IF God and his angels exist then they are real. The premise should not be a definition of the conclusion.I need to know how you define "create"; i.e., does a tree "create" shade?

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KindlyEveryone deserves a neatly dug grave. It is the timing that's in dispute.One hot lesbian.

If you say that is what you think is the best evidence for creationism I can only disagree by calling you a fibber.Brian, I think the best evidence for creationism is the scar I have over my right eye caused by a badly preformed trampoline stunt back in 1972. But then again, you didn't ask me because I'm not daft enough to be a creationist. But it's as good as anything I've read so far.Edited by lyx2no, : Mistype.

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KindlyEveryone deserves a neatly dug grave. It is the timing that's in dispute.One hot lesbian.

That complex systems can be the product of purposeful design by an intelligent agent is established fact. Snow flakes show that "are" is unachievable.

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KindlyWhen I was young I loved everything about cigarettes: the smell, the taste, the feel . everything. Now that I’m older I’ve had a change of heart. Want to see the scar?

You're welcome, but it wasn't a correction, it was an argument. But my next sentence will be a correction. I'll apply your gratitude to it. The ToE say nothing whatsoever about origins. Furthermore, any failings of the ToE, real or imagined, have no value as evidence of creation; it must stand on its own.Discovery of an irreducibly complex system could be problematical, possibly fatal, to the ToE; but, one has yet to be presented; and, that still would not support creationism until such time that "creationism" is defined in a much less nebulous fashion. Have you been looking in the right places? Your questions so far cast suspicions about where you have been looking.

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KindlyWhen I was young I loved everything about cigarettes: the smell, the taste, the feel . everything. Now that I’m older I’ve had a change of heart. Want to see the scar?