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coffee_addict
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Message 7 of 138 (100273)
04-15-2004 5:11 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by sidelined
12-04-2003 11:26 PM


Might as well demand some scientific sense out of the Illiad or the Odyssey.

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coffee_addict
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Message 9 of 138 (100686)
04-18-2004 2:50 AM
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04-18-2004 2:25 AM


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Let me give a few examples: Until the 1960, most astronomers did not believe there was a beginning. They believed in what I believe they called the steady-state theory, which basically described the universe as unchanging and eternal. Of coarse, in the 1950's Penzias and Wilson discovered what was believed to be the echo of the Big Bang, and scientists were finally convinced that there was a beginning choosing to believe in the Big Bang theory. Interestingly what took science until the 1960's to finally conclude, was stated matter-of-factly in the first verse of the Bible.
You've been misinformed about the history of astronomy and astrophysics.
Scientists started believing that the Universe was ever changing back to Kepler's time. It was when Kepler and many other astronomers at the time witnessed the first recorded super nova (appearance of a new star) in the heavens. Of course, people like you at the time tried to suppress this information the best they could.
The Steady-state theory was proposed in the late 40's, which was after the big bang theory was proposed. No, most scientists did not accept the steady-state theory over the big bang. Most were impartial for a time.
The steady state theory did not say that the universe was ever unchanging and eternal. Because by the 30's, astronomers already figured out that the Universe was expanding. Steady state proposed that matter is continually created while the Universe contiually expands to infinity. Big difference with your claim of eternal and unchanging. In fact, Fri Zwicky's observation in the 30's showed that the Universe weighed a lot less than what it took to hold the galaxies together. But that's another story... with dark matter and all.
Here is a picture of Zwicky in 1933.
The Steady-state theory had a lot of problems, and the majority of scientists abandoned it after the first decade or so. Only the 1960's that the theory was completely thrown out the window when they discovered the first quasars, which totally contradicted the theory. You can do a search on this if you want because I'm too lazy to go into it now.
Regarding the mere coincident that the bible mentioned the Universe having a beginning, what about the Greek creation myth? It also mentioned a beginning doesn't it? Egyptian creation myth also mentioned a beginning to everything.
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The Bible also speaks of black holes in space, the complexities of weather patterns, and many other very fascinating issues that modern science is only begining to unravel.
Please provide some quotes from the bible please. I will respond to them accordingly. And please please please do not post links or long strings of quotes. I don't have time to read 20 lines of poetry.

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coffee_addict
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Message 14 of 138 (107818)
05-13-2004 1:07 AM
Reply to: Message 13 by jar
05-13-2004 12:39 AM


jar writes:
which might well be interesting if it were correct. Too bad that the global winds are east and west and not north to south.
Damn, you beat me to it

The Laminator

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