Dawkins' Preachings

Delbert, In addition to Charles Knight's post, above. How do you know "something" (because it may not be a heart, rather presumptuous of you to assume that without evidence, wouldn't you say?) is beating?Mark

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There are 10 kinds of people in this world; those that understand binary, & those that don't

Delbert Grady, Easily demonstrated, do it again in front of me. I will of course require evidence that the "being" walking alongside you is in fact a deity. Strange how "facts" can be annoyingly unrepeatable, non? That's why no-one believes you. Which is generally non-contentious & arrived at observationally anyway, ie with evidence. Failure to demonstrate that with evidence renders it a myth, & not "common knowledge". Science does not preclude God. When people talk of science having nothing to say about god, they mean that in the current environment there is no evidence of god. Of course, if a being appeared & could repeatedly alter the rules of physics on demand, then this would be excellent scientific evidence of god. You are confusing metaphysical naturalism (there absolutely is no god), with methodological naturalism, which potentially allows for god, but requires evidence.The scientific method (which works quite happily outside of science, incidentally) requires a hypothesis to explain an observation. That hypothesis must then be tested by having evidence uncovered that is consistent with it, & none contradicting it. Since there is none of god either way, the "hypothesis" is rendered equal to fairies & unicorns.Your summary of the alleged atheistic conclusion that absolutely denies god is, IMHO, correct. But to an agnostic atheist this is 1/ false, & 2/ not evidence of god. Ergo, until I see you walking around with what is demonstrably the supreme being as you have claimed as being factual, I'll hold off of hurling myself at any particular religion, if that's OK by you?Furthermore, you seem to think having knowledge of a beating heart requires no evidence. I would love to know how you know you have something /1 beating, & 2/ that it is a heart, ie. a pump?Mark

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There are 10 kinds of people in this world; those that understand binary, & those that don't

Delbert, No it doesn't, logic dictates that you can't know anything without evidence. Mike challenged you to demonstrate this, might I suggest you do so? Evidence is something we can observe through our five senses.And please, please read what I write, not what you want me to write. I have shown that methodological naturalism/scientific method allows for god. I am not removing the possibilities of god, & neither is science. Whoa! I asked you how you know that 1/ you have something beating, & 2/ that it is a heart. Please show your reasoning that leads you to conclude that you have a beating heart. Then feeling that god doesn't exist means he doesn't, right?What you internally feel in your mind is not evidence. Schizophrenics hear voices, very real to them, but are in fact totally imaginary. It is the total giving over to mental subjectivism such as this that shows the untrustworthyness of feelings of the mind. What you feel may be directly contradicted by what someone else feels, & mutually exclusive positions can't both be right. So how do you tell who is right, & who is wrong without real-world evidence gathered by observation?Mark

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There are 10 kinds of people in this world; those that understand binary, & those that don't