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Author Topic:   Evolution is a religion. Creation is a religion.
Finniss
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Message 167 of 180 (89662)
03-01-2004 8:24 PM


Some aspects of evolution are theories, not laws. A theory is something that has been tested over and over and has not been disproven. People love to cite tests that have found something that would disprove some theories. That is horrible science. First we all know that it is easy to make errors while performing a test. We often take special measures to make sure that errors do not occure. No test that I know of can be repeated disproving the current theories. I would love to see someone who can point me to a scientific experiment that can be performed to disprove current evolution theories. There are 100's that seem to prove that it is how things were created and none that show that it isn't. We can never prove or disprove God or the heavens while on Earth but we can do our best to prove how things happen while we are here.
One way to show that the universe is older than 5000 or so years is astonomy. The laws of motion have been proven time and again and I doubt any of you believe that they are incorrect. By using simple principles of physics we can look at the stars and know with realitivly good accuracy how far that are away. We have also proven that the speed of light never changes, through both simple and complex tests. Therefor if everything just appeared by creation about 5000 years ago we would not see any stars or other objects further than about 5000 light years away, yet we do. Perhaps god created everything to appear that it was always here? If you wish to argue that there is no way to disagree but you essentially are agreeing that god created everything to appear as if it "evolved". I can cite 100+ examples that I can even prove to you through simple experiments on earth that would make everything appear to be far more than 5000 years old. But I could also argue that everything was created by God 5 minutes ago and he just implanted the memories you have of "your life" into your head. Ether things were not created or they were created with "memories" of events that obey the laws of physics that would have happened many years before things were created.
I cannot argue that God did not create the earth 5000 years ago but gave us an Earth that seems to have memories from much longer ago, but scientifically speaking everything we know points to much further back than 5000 years.

  
Finniss
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Message 174 of 180 (96304)
03-31-2004 10:23 AM


I think what it comes down to is faith. Any logical creationist who has done some studying knows that there is currently little scientific evidence that supports a young earth. It comes down to believing that another scientific descovery will come along that modifies the way we think about the way the universe works, like Einsteins relativity. It's possible but there is little or no evidence to support it.

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Finniss
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Message 176 of 180 (96364)
03-31-2004 1:54 PM


I do not think it comes down to GR. I'm sorry if I was unclear but I was saying that a descovery that completely changes the way we think about our current model would have to come along. GR showed us that there is a universal speed limit. Until Einstein showed us this we thought that we could just accelerate to any speed. It changed newtons laws of motion.
There are not even any sound theories that I know of that can explain why science shows the age of the earth to be billions of years old. This does not mean we will not descover something revolutionary that changes the way we think LIKE GR. Those who discount our current studies because of their faith I believe to be foolish, but those who have faith that our current models could be off by some unseen factor just have faith.

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