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Grizz
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Message 62 of 114 (455277)
02-11-2008 7:13 PM
Reply to: Message 61 by Blue Jay
02-11-2008 1:52 PM


Re: Teleology
So, teleology would only prove an "intelligent tinkerer" (which could be God, advanced aliens, conspiring CIA people, or whatever your favorite paranoia is). But, the nature of the design may reveal even scarier things than materialistic evolution theorizes, such as God's actual purpose in creating the Earth having little to do with us at all. In fact, none of the examples discussed so far actually support a human-centered plan of creation. If this kind of evidence isn't found, people may find evolution to be a more comforting thought than an all-powerful beetle-god.
Bluejay,
I very much enjoy reading your posts; you always offer up a lot of food for thought.
Behind every design is an implicit purpose. If Beetles somehow shared man's intellectual and emotional capablities, it would be interesting to listen to the arguments unfold about which species God had in mind when designing the Universe. Beetles are pretty easy to smash, however, so the religious war wouldn't last too long. To the victor goes the spoils.

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Grizz
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Message 69 of 114 (455790)
02-13-2008 7:13 PM
Reply to: Message 67 by Blue Jay
02-13-2008 1:00 AM


Re: Teleology
On the other hand, can anyone think of anything teleological in human evolution? It seems, if true creationists want to prove their point, they’ll not only have to prove teleology, but prove teleology in our favor. Any ideas?
Well, observing how the various camps reason, other species would simply be offered up by creationists as the supporting cast in any such teleology. If one is willing to believe the Earth is 6,500 years old, any other assertions would be relatively easy to fit into such a line of thought without proof, even if it makes little sense or flies in the face of conventional wisdom.
On the other hand, we all search for purpose and meaning in our lives; this quest often leads people to different places. I wouldn't go so far as to say attaching a teleolgical nature to man's existence is irrational(unless, of course, one were to attach a claim that the Earth is 6500 years old etc..)

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