Reasons for Creationist Persistence

Hi Ringo. Here's a list of close to 200 from AIG, a number of whom should fit the ticket as scientists. Abe: All on the list are doctorates. Bios | Answers in Genesis Edited by Buzsaw, : No reason given.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

Hi Wise one. Ringo called for a list of creo scientists. He did not specify. AIG provided the list for what it's worth. I didn't say all were scientists. I said there should be some on the list who fill the ticket. I don't know who are bonafide and who are not. I assume some do fill the ticket as bonafide creo scientists in answer to Ringo's call. It would be quite a task to check them all out. Thanks for the info you took the time to get up.I do know that the ICR folks have done field research on the Grand Canyon and Mt St Helens et al. I have videos of those. I also have videos and the book of ID creo Dr Lennart Mollar, Swedish marine biologist who does marine archeological stuff along with his biological work. He photographed and researched evidence in the Gulf of Aqaba and region relative to the Exodus.A lot of archeological and other science projects have been done and are ongoing by creos, some doctorates and others all the way up the credential ladder which I'm not apprised on.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

Hi Ringo. My apologies. I replied to your message 37 and didn't read on to see where you had clarified to specify the type of scientists when I said you hadn't specified.

Not only that but they seem to be shut out from most peer reviews.

Imo, creationist persistence wouldn't be such a problem if the mainline proponents of it would let the Biblical record make more sense which it does when applied to the wholistic context as to the nature of God and as per basic scientific laws which are compatible with a correct rendering of the Genesis account.1. The Biblical god Jehovah is an eternal god and since the record says he exists in the heaven's in a specific place where there is a throne room, trees golden streets and pearly gates et al, Biblical creationists should understand that of necessity the universe has eternally existed.2. Creationists are told in the Biblical record that all things exist in and come forth from God. This includes all energy, clearly implying that no energy was ever created, having eternally existed in/trough and by God, as per 1LoT.3. Genesis 1:1 simply says whenever the heavens and the earth were created, God did it. Work on the earth's surface did not begin until the spirit of God began to move (work) on the surface of the earth.Imo, mainline evangelical ID creos need to rethink their science and their scripture before they will ever begin to have a credible argument. My BH (Buzsaw Hypothesis) may be offbeat to the tune of creos but imo it is more compatible to both the Biblical record and science than the majority onbeat hypothesis.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

I find it necessary to designate ID creo from creo. Everyone from Percy and Jar to YECs have referred to themselves as creationists in that they believe in a supreme god who somehow have been involved in the process of creation. At least that's how I have understood them. That term creationist is just too broad a term to designate one's ideology, imo. No that's just not correct. Jehovah is an intelligent designer who intelligently designed everyting in the universe as per my hypothesis and as well as per all YECs. How can you say intelligent design had anything to do with the early stages of NS and RM? It appears that you the one who's wishy washy and trying to have things both ways.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

Colossians 1:15-20 is where I got this from. Read it and you will have to conclude that it includes all energy, imo. It's referring to Jesus, God's son who came forth from the Holy Spirit implying that before birth he was somehow one and the same with God's spirit by who God appears to do work in the universe. This is implied in Genesis 1:1,2.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

How did you come to that? I thought I made it clear that I was suggesting that mainline Id creos get more Biblically literate since to do so would make them more compatible with basic laws of science as does my hypothesis which complies with both the Genesis account and thermodynamic laws. Where did you get that I expected all to agree? I'm simply asking them to take a look at some points I make and go figure. Psalms 103:19. "Jehovah has established his throne in the heavens; And his kingdom rules over all." his is what I said, "Creationists are told in the Biblical record that....." So yes, imo what the record literally says it says to all." So whether they care to accept it at face value or not, it still says what it says to all.Dwise, I'm not able to make sense out of the rest of what you were trying to convey. You'll need to clarify if you want a reponse to that.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

Message copied into new topic. Thanks Moose. I agree.