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Parasomnium
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Message 31 of 173 (395945)
04-18-2007 2:30 PM


Some rebuttals
jjsemsch writes:
Also the Oct 23 date is based on the Gregorian calendar and we currently use the Julian calendar.
I hate to break it to you, but you have those two calendars mixed up.
Early hominids are extinct apes.
You know, in a way you're right. But only in the sense that modern man is a non-extinct ape. But I suspect that's not how you meant it.
My axiom is that the Bible is true. Based on that, I can say that dinosaurs did not exist before creation.
Based on that, you can say pretty much anything about dinosaurs, because they are not mentioned in the Bible at all. And the reason for that is that the people who wrote the stories in the Bible were not aware of the existence of dinosaurs on earth up to about 65 million years ago. Nor did they know that birds are probably the descendants of the dinosaurs. You could say they were generally pretty ignorant about natural history, period.
In fact much of the fossil record can be interpreted as being buried during the Noachian Flood.
Of course it can be, if you disregard most of the evidence. That way you can also surmise that aliens crafted those fossils from rocks and buried them in the strata just for fun. Or you can fantasize about the world having been created last Thursday by the Flying Spaghetti Monster, complete with a history to make it look 6000 years old to some, and 4.5 billion years old to others. But you have to ignore a huge amount of evidence to do so.

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science." - Charles Darwin.
Did you know that most of the time your computer is doing nothing? What if you could make it do something really useful? Like helping scientists understand diseases? Your computer could even be instrumental in finding a cure for HIV/AIDS. Wouldn't that be something? If you agree, then join World Community Grid now and download a simple, free tool that lets you and your computer do your share in helping humanity. After all, you are part of it, so why not take part in it?

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Message 34 of 173 (395956)
04-18-2007 3:08 PM
Reply to: Message 33 by jjsemsch
04-18-2007 2:42 PM


Re: Some rebuttals
jjsemsch writes:
Ah, thank you for the correction.
You're welcome.
This is further evidence for my position that humans are capable of error, while God is not.
Actually, that's not quite correct.
Here's is an example of a correct syllogism:
Premise 1: I am capable of making errors
Premise 2: I am human
Conclusion: Therefore humans are capable of making errors
Here's is an example of an incorrect syllogism:
Premise 1: I am capable of making errors
Premise 2: I am human
Conclusion: Therefore God is not capable of making errors
The error made in the last one is known as a non-sequitur.

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science." - Charles Darwin.
Did you know that most of the time your computer is doing nothing? What if you could make it do something really useful? Like helping scientists understand diseases? Your computer could even be instrumental in finding a cure for HIV/AIDS. Wouldn't that be something? If you agree, then join World Community Grid now and download a simple, free tool that lets you and your computer do your share in helping humanity. After all, you are part of it, so why not take part in it?

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Message 49 of 173 (395976)
04-18-2007 3:51 PM
Reply to: Message 46 by kuresu
04-18-2007 3:43 PM


:laughing:
kuresu writes:
Edited by kuresu, 04-18-2007 09:45 PM: No reason given.
I thought you were half-way through kicking the habit, but I see you've had a relapse. Too bad.

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Message 53 of 173 (395983)
04-18-2007 4:14 PM
Reply to: Message 51 by kuresu
04-18-2007 4:07 PM


Re: :laughing:
kuresu writes:
hence the edit.
I saw it before the edit. Hence the title, hence my quote, and hence "relapse". Any more clues, and I would have been forced to use emoticons...
Edited by Parasomnium, : more fun

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Message 102 of 173 (396315)
04-19-2007 3:51 PM
Reply to: Message 94 by jjsemsch
04-19-2007 2:56 PM


Lewis' Trilemma
jjsemsch writes:
In the end you must confront C.S Lewis’s Trilemma argument
Would that argument still hold water if it was about someone else who claimed to be God?

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science." - Charles Darwin.
Did you know that most of the time your computer is doing nothing? What if you could make it do something really useful? Like helping scientists understand diseases? Your computer could even be instrumental in finding a cure for HIV/AIDS. Wouldn't that be something? If you agree, then join World Community Grid now and download a simple, free tool that lets you and your computer do your share in helping humanity. After all, you are part of it, so why not take part in it?

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