JohnPaul writes:
Would DNA replicate outside of a cell? No because it needs proteins to help it.
You are absolutely incorrect: DNA can replicate outside of a cell - it's happening in my lab right now. It also doesn't require "proteins" to replicate - it only requires a single "protein" to efficiently replicate.
I'm sure you can argue that it wouldn't happen outside of the lab - but I don't believe that either you or I can discuss the probability of minimal cell-free replicating systems (possibly solely RNA-based) existing in a 'primordial soup'. (Though I'm guessing your answer would be zero...)
As far as my assertion that bacterial reproduction is not IC - DNA replication is a process within bacterial reproduction that can occur without the rest of the bacterium - therefore the bacterial reproduction itself is not IC by (my) definition. I did read the article you referenced - no matter how long it discusses cell division, it remains that DNA replication can occur without it - it does in fact, to form polyploid cells and syncytia (both are in your body right now).
If there was an seemingly unasserted statement on my part, it was: with DNA replication at the core of a hypothetical minimal system, and with DNA changes at the heart of evolution - evolution can occur in that system. Hypothetical. Though, in line with evolutionary thought, I believe.
Oh. By the way - humans do not "design" their babies; you should know that since you reference all of the IC in life - if we can't understand the complexity, how can we design it? I'd give you more arguments, but that would be beating a dead horse.