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Author Topic:   H-D isn't what it used to be according to Stephen ben Yeshua
Percy
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Message 11 of 32 (81341)
01-28-2004 12:44 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Mammuthus
01-28-2004 6:53 AM


I'd like to see HD discussions centralized here rather than spread across several threads as they are now. I made this comment in Message 168 of The best scientific method thread:
You continue to confuse the definitions of these two terms (HD and MN). Methodological naturalism is merely the belief that natural causes are behind all we can observe with our senses, and that its inner workings are amenable to decipherment through methodological investigation. The hypothetico-deductive method is simply the familiar approach of Popperian science for conducting these methodological investigations. You've rejected MN and set aside all standards of objectivity in HD to arrive at a perspective and method guaranteed to yield nonsense.
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 12 of 32 (81406)
01-28-2004 8:45 PM


Hi, Stephen!
I'm curious about your scientific work. I found this description in Evolving Behavioural Choice: An Investigation into Herrnstein's Matching Law:
A hypothesis derived from Fretwell [2] is put to the test; that matching behaviour is optimal if there is sufficient competition for the resources. This model therefore introduces the evolution of multiple agents for choice behaviour.
So it seems that at one time you accepted the theory of evolution. Perhaps you could describe and contrast for us the concepts of ideal-free distribution and ideal-despotic distribution developed by yourself and Henry Lucas, and compare them to the concept of Inclusive Fitness Distribution introduced by Morris, Lundberg and Ripa. It would also be relevant if you touched on how subjective Bayesianism contributed to your research.
Most importantly, please describe how you came to abandon your ideas and reject evolution.
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 16 of 32 (82191)
02-02-2004 3:27 PM
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02-02-2004 2:49 PM


Science: now you see it, now you don't
Hi, Stephen!
Thank you for taking the time to write that fascinating summary of your early scientific career. What struck me was the contrast between your work with birds and your work with prayer studies. You say:
So, I ended up doing prayer experiments, with both plants and personal issues. These worked amazingly well. When it seemed likely that this Jehovah person was really out there, I made an effort to get an interview, and ask Him about evolution. This succeeded...
In contrast to your work with birds, this appears to have no scientific foundation. It seems to be completely subjective because the only way we know you communicated with Jehovah, and know the contents of that communication, is your say so, and it's probably a pretty safe bet that you published no peer reviewed papers on this.
Your bird work had a scientific foundation in the form of objective data that you gathered from nature. Your prayer work is just the opposite, having only subjective personal data. Can you see why your early work was widely cited while your later work is ignored?
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 25 of 32 (82599)
02-03-2004 12:56 PM
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02-03-2004 12:22 PM


holmes writes:
BTW, Mammuthus I should say (belatedly) that I really like your latest avatar. It's kind of menacing yet alluring all at the same time.
And yet strangely reminiscent of TrueCreation's original avatar. He changed avatars, though, so I can't show it here. Perhaps some remember it?
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 27 of 32 (82654)
02-03-2004 3:04 PM
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02-03-2004 2:00 PM


TrueCreation's Avatar
I guess I'd describe it as scary but alluring. Anyone want to attempt to describe TrueCreation's original avatar?
--Percy

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