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JB1740
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Message 25 of 295 (441579)
12-18-2007 8:14 AM
Reply to: Message 23 by JRTjr
12-18-2007 7:32 AM


Re: differentiating between the observation and the theory
No transitional forms,
This statement is utterly false. I'm gonna call BS here and ask you to support this statement with references.
just a whole lot of new phyla (species, or group of animals)
Do you know what a phylum is, or are you just throwing around words? This sentence doesn't actually make a lot of sense.
popping into existence in a vary short period of time (geologically speaking).
Can you define "short period of time?" I have a pretty solid concept of geologic time and have parameters of "short" versus "long" intervals. Can you give me some numbers so we can see if we're anywhere on the same sheet of music?

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JB1740
Member (Idle past 5966 days)
Posts: 132
From: Washington, DC, US
Joined: 11-20-2007


Message 34 of 295 (441624)
12-18-2007 11:23 AM
Reply to: Message 32 by JRTjr
12-18-2007 11:09 AM


Re: differentiating between the observation and the theory
You state that it is “utterly false” that there are not transitional forms. Great, give me an example of a transitional form.
No. I can certainly give you plenty of examples of transitional fossils, but that isn't my responsibility here. You made the assertion that there are no transitional fossils. You're asserting something that runs against common paleontological knowledge, so you need to demonstrate that this is an accurate statement. Take a fossil that is normally considered to be transitional by the paleontological community and deconstruct it. Demonstrate how it is not transitional.
As to me not knowing what ”Phyla’ (Hint: definition is “species, or group of animals”);-}
Well, species aren't equivalent to phyla. Moreover, your definition, "a group of animals" is broad enough to mean anything. How do you distinguish a phylum from a class, or an order, then?
Regarding time: Okay...but we don't really consider half a billion years to be short, geologically speaking. That was what I found confusing. Yes, most of life's diversity has arisen in the last 550 or so million years, but that isn't a short time span...even to a geologist.

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