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CK
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Message 16 of 105 (134146)
08-15-2004 7:13 PM
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08-15-2004 2:20 AM


As explained on my flyer that was handed out at our museum, Ron said that he found Jesus' blood on the Mercy Seat of the Ark of the Covenant -- and Ron's private tests of that blood sample showed that Jesus' blood had a total of only 24 chromosomes -- (23 chromosomes came from Mary, and only one "Y" chromosome was provided by God)! Many people have "demanded" to be shown the blood sample, but for many years Ron told people that they would have to WAIT to see the blood -- but for the very first time, on February 3, 2000, Mary Nell Wyatt and Richard Rives decided to post an actually video clip of the BLOOD SAMPLE on the official W.A.R. website! Finally, we can see Ron Wyatt's blood sample! To view it, go to:
http://www.wyattmuseum.com/ark-of-the-covenant-07.htm
(The last time I checked this link, the WAR webpage had been redesigned and this link went to their main index page instead of going to the blood sample page -- I shall look into fixing this link.)
I found this over at Page not found – Pinkoski.com
Who'd believe it - the evidence is in a video!

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CK
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Message 17 of 105 (134149)
08-15-2004 7:18 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by CK
08-15-2004 7:13 PM


Doctor - We need a doctor over here!
These living particles have been found to contain genetic material yet to be understood by the scientific community. They have been found to polymorphic in nature, capable of changing forms, and to be "unaffected by extreme high temperatures, extremely toxic chemicals, or even nuclear radiation" They have been described as "an ultramicroscopic sub-cellular living and reproducing entity, which many scientists believe is the precursor of DNA and which may be the building block of all terrestrial life" ......Christopher Bird, The Persecution and Trial of Gaston Naessens.
These tiny particles, some of which are less than one tenth of a micron in size have been recognized by various names including Microzymes, Agens, Endobiont, polymorpha, du sangre, Micromycet, Onkonyxa, Mikroorganisms, Mycoplasma like bodies and by the term "Somatid" meaning "the body that creates."
The French scientist Gaston Naessens is responsible for naming the particles "Somatids." Professor Naessens developed a light microscope capable of viewing these tiny particles which are normally invisible to standard medical microscopes. His microscope is recognized around the world for it's resolution abilities.
As a result of medical necessity and intense research, Richard Rives, President of Wyatt Archaeological Research, became aware of the existence of these tiny living particles "Somatids." He found that in the absence of bacterial cells in urine cultures, which normally divide producing more bacteria, cells would suddenly appear out of nowhere. The question was: where did the bacteria come from. A medical doctor, who was a friend of Richard's suggested that he might check into the claims of Gaston Naessens, that sub-cellular particles existed, capable of developing into "bacteria like forms."
From information that Richard was able to obtain he constructed his own microscope, based on the designs of Gaston Naessens, which was able to reveal the tiny particles. Richard found that these particles were indeed present in the urine samples even when bacterial cells were not present and that they were actually developing into the "bacterial like particles" described by Naessens.
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Microscope in it's present "improved" state
It must be stated that the mere presence of these particles in no way proves that the sample taken is "the blood of Christ." These particles would be present an any re-hydrated blood. What is extremely significant is the fact that the sample taken was proclaimed by Ron Wyatt to be blood from a crucifixion site. The presence of these particles tends to confirm his statement.
In 1996, Richard Rives, using the microscope described above, in the presence and with the assistance of Mary Nell Wyatt and Tim Mitchell, was able to view the tiny living particles in the re-hydrated sample which has was described by Ron Wyatt as "the blood of Christ."
Anyone with some medical expertise able to help us out on this one?

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Message 18 of 105 (134155)
08-15-2004 7:37 PM
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08-15-2004 7:18 PM


Re: Doctor - We need a doctor over here!
Well there's this about Gaston Naessens.
http://www.quackwatch.org/...yRelatedTopics/Cancer/714x.html
I don't know if Ron Wyatt took 714X, but if he did it, did not save him.

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CK
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Message 19 of 105 (134156)
08-15-2004 7:39 PM
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08-15-2004 7:37 PM


Re: Doctor - We need a doctor over here!
Gosh - Ron got a crackpot doctor to do the bloodwork - I'm shocked and surprised!

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Message 20 of 105 (134159)
08-15-2004 8:02 PM
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08-15-2004 7:39 PM


Re: Doctor - We need a doctor over here!
You aren't saying that the dark-field microscope might be a hoax as well, are you? That can't be true of the improved dark-field microscope that was developed by Richard Rives? That would mean that Richard Rives is also a fraud and crackpot.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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CK
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Message 21 of 105 (134163)
08-15-2004 8:21 PM
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08-15-2004 8:02 PM


Re: Doctor - We need a doctor over here!
gosh never! Anyone know where the actual bloodwork is now?
Or did some steal it to aid to the chariot wheels, the giant's jawbone and the like?
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Message 22 of 105 (134203)
08-15-2004 11:30 PM
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08-15-2004 8:21 PM


Re: Doctor - We need a doctor over here!
Ain`t seen nothing yet,Chas. Coming up to a hall near you, the bones of Jonah`s whale, ice cubes made from the 'congealed' waters of the Aqaba crossing, and---drum roll--the genuine baskets used for the bread and fishes picnic.

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Message 23 of 105 (134209)
08-15-2004 11:40 PM
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08-15-2004 11:30 PM


Re: Doctor - We need a doctor over here!
I always did like that part about loafin' and fishin'.
(apologies to the comic strip Frank and Ernest)

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CK
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Message 24 of 105 (134429)
08-16-2004 5:25 PM
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08-15-2004 11:40 PM


Re: Doctor - We need a doctor over here!
well since none of our creationist chums have decided to join the party - I will declare:
It was a load of bollocks!
THE END.

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Message 25 of 105 (134432)
08-16-2004 5:44 PM
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08-15-2004 2:02 AM


Ark of the Covenant
According to Revelation 11:19, the ark has been taken to heaven. If you know anything about the importance of this vessel, it will become more than logical that it should be there.
Rev 11:19
And the temple of God was opened in
heaven, and there was seen in his temple
the ark of his testament: and there were
lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and
an earthquake, and great hail.
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"Let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit!"
2 Cor. 7:1

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Message 26 of 105 (134435)
08-16-2004 5:48 PM
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08-16-2004 5:25 PM


Re: Doctor - We need a doctor over here!
As for the 'blood of Jesus' test? Crap!
I've seen some people stretch it. This is a new stretch on stretch.

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Message 27 of 105 (134471)
08-16-2004 8:11 PM
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08-16-2004 5:44 PM


Re: Ark of the Covenant
the ark has been taken to heaven
I'm still trying to get someone to tell me where that is. Maybe I should start a thread? Where is this place called heaven that people and things go to and that someone said Jesus left earth for?
lfen

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PecosGeorge
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Message 28 of 105 (134622)
08-17-2004 8:54 AM
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08-16-2004 8:11 PM


Re: Ark of the Covenant
I understand your consternation. Generally speaking, 'heaven' is understood to be God's home. That concept must be accepted by faith, the same way God is accepted. We cannot prove his existence, we cannot prove he has a home. That he would have a place of abode is commensurate with his existence, and so on.
When Jesus was taken into heaven, he went up in a cloud. When Jesus returns, he will come in the clouds. So I'd say heaven is 'up'.
As for where people go? If you mean upon death, then they go into a grave waiting for the resurrection. Some to go to everlasting life, some to go to everlasting death.
Check it out.

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CK
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Message 29 of 105 (134623)
08-17-2004 8:56 AM
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08-17-2004 8:54 AM


Re: Ark of the Covenant
Check it out.
surely you have to die to do that?

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lfen
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Message 30 of 105 (134646)
08-17-2004 10:34 AM
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08-17-2004 8:54 AM


Jesus's body
When Jesus was taken into heaven, he went up in a cloud. When Jesus returns, he will come in the clouds. So I'd say heaven is 'up'.
As for where people go? If you mean upon death, then they go into a grave waiting for the resurrection. Some to go to everlasting life, some to go to everlasting death.
Okay, you are referring to bodies,no? But was/is Jesus a body? Like blood, and bones and nervous system? Jesus's body went up, that is away from the surface of the earth, but that leaves a lot of directions. Like to the Sun? or towards Polaris? Bodies go into the grave. I understand many believe that their bodies will be resurrected in some fashion, Paul indicates the resurrected bodies are not quite the same as the bodies of humans right now.
When Shri Ramana Maharshi was dying his disciples were begging him not to leave them. He asked them, "Leave? Where could I go?" He was not talking of his body though. He was speaking of his realization of consciousness, the source that we are primordially, is eternal, that it is unborn. I know some christians experience Christ as present with them.
lfen

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