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robinrohan
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Message 61 of 146 (216047)
06-11-2005 12:11 AM
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06-10-2005 11:05 PM


Re: Races
Thanks, Crashfrog.
I was thinking that.

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Siguiendo la verdad
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Message 62 of 146 (216123)
06-11-2005 10:11 AM
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06-10-2005 11:05 PM


Re: Races
Exactly once again!!! Because we all came from the same mommy and daddy, who had all the posible genetic potentiality to produce every human trait that we see today. So there is intra-species common decent, but not inter-species common decent. Though Hitler tried to say that some humans were more advanced than others, thus trying to fulfill Nietzche's idea of a superman. An obvious godless philopher that clearly inspired the Nazi endevours.

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crashfrog
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Message 63 of 146 (216125)
06-11-2005 10:28 AM
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06-11-2005 10:11 AM


Re: Races
AN: This is not on topic here, please do not respond.
So there is intra-species common decent, but not inter-species common decent.
But we observe that there is. Where else are all the new species coming from?
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Siguiendo la verdad
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Message 64 of 146 (216127)
06-11-2005 10:37 AM
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06-11-2005 10:28 AM


Re: Races
AN: This is not on topic here, please do not respond.
First, that's for another topic. (AN: agreed, you started it stay off it here. I suggest: Macroevolution: Its all around us...).
Second, just like the picture of three blind men touching different parts of an elephant, all calling it something different, because of their bias and perspective, you would say (as most evolutionists do) that we are seeing "all kinds of new species", where as a christian would say "those are just different variations within the same species".
Thus we have the stalemate where the same evidence is varifying different perspecties and bringing about different conclusions. Which varifies scripture all the more when it says the natural man thinks the things of the spirit are foolish. which pretty much sums up this entire arguement.
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robinrohan
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Message 65 of 146 (216128)
06-11-2005 10:42 AM
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06-11-2005 10:11 AM


Re: Races
An obvious godless philopher that clearly inspired the Nazi endevours.
It's not obvious at all that Hitler was "godless." Hitler professes his belief in God over and over in Mein Kampf. He says that in killing the Jews he will be doing the work of the Lord.

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robinrohan
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Message 66 of 146 (216131)
06-11-2005 10:51 AM
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06-10-2005 11:05 PM


Re: Races
Just one additional question, Crashfrog or anybody who knows. What would be the scientifc definition of "race"?

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crashfrog
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Message 67 of 146 (216136)
06-11-2005 11:30 AM
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06-11-2005 10:51 AM


Re: Races
There is none.

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crashfrog
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Message 68 of 146 (216139)
06-11-2005 11:31 AM
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06-11-2005 10:37 AM


Re: Races
Please see my reply here.
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robinrohan
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Message 69 of 146 (216156)
06-11-2005 12:28 PM
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06-11-2005 11:30 AM


Re: Races
There is none.
Oh.

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Modulous
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Message 70 of 146 (216163)
06-11-2005 12:52 PM
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06-11-2005 10:51 AM


Re: Races
Whilst 'there is none' is about right, that doesn't mean there aren't definitions out there. Answers.com is great for these kinds of things:
An interbreeding, usually geographically isolated population of organisms differing from other populations of the same species in the frequency of hereditary traits.
Its a little (ahem) vague, but its as good as there is I believe.

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robinrohan
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Message 71 of 146 (216170)
06-11-2005 1:26 PM
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06-11-2005 12:52 PM


Re: Races
Are there "races" within other species?

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Modulous
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Message 72 of 146 (216171)
06-11-2005 1:30 PM
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06-11-2005 1:26 PM


Re: Races
I suppose there are some. I don't know what, if any, differences the definition of race has with the definition of 'breed' (I appreciate that breed is an artificial thing, wheras race is natural). Perhaps there are species which can interbreed, but don't because of mating ritual variances, or colour pattern clashes...these could be called races.

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robinrohan
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Message 73 of 146 (216228)
06-11-2005 5:56 PM
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06-11-2005 1:30 PM


Re: Races
I was thinking of "variants" within a species, such as in the butterfly family. I was wondering if that was the same thing as race.

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Siguiendo la verdad
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Message 74 of 146 (216247)
06-11-2005 7:01 PM
Reply to: Message 65 by robinrohan
06-11-2005 10:42 AM


Re: Races
Anybody can profess to believe in God, but the real key is do they believe God!
Killing the people of God is an obvious contradiction to Biblical teachings. And Hitler's behavior obviously shows a very unchristian and unregenerate heart, no matter what he might have said or wrote.

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robinrohan
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Message 75 of 146 (216269)
06-11-2005 8:27 PM
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06-11-2005 7:01 PM


Re: Races
Anybody can profess to believe in God, but the real key is do they believe God!
Hitler professed to believe in God. So either he is lying or he really did believe in God. In order to prove he is lying, you will need some textual evidence. Many Christians have been responsible for many killings and torturings. They did it, presumably, because they thought they were doing the right thing.
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