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Percy
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Message 13 of 72 (5477)
02-25-2002 2:46 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by Robert
02-25-2002 1:15 PM


Hi, Robert, Welcome aboard!
I don't think you're getting many straight answers to your questions, but you sort of set the tone with your initial post. Your views aren't all that dissimilar from Redstang's and Jet's, who believe evolution perpetuates itself through a conspiracy on the part of its adherents. You, at least, provide a reason: they do it for the money.
For most people, a career in evolutionary biology or paleontology is not a ticket to either wealth or fame. The slim financial rewards are far too insufficient a motivation to live a lie. And how would so many people from so many countries of so many religions for so many years perpetuate this lie?
Conspiracy theories are notoriously difficult to rebut. Did you know our government doesn't want us to know that blue elephants are secretly living in our refrigerators? What's that? You've never seen a blue elephant in your refrigerator? See, the conspiracy is working!
Your question about the origin of multi-celluar life actually concerns an implication of the theory of evolution, not evidence for it. The theory of evolution is accepted by scientists because of the supporting evidence, most prominently the fossil record of change over time. Mining, road construction and other activities related to the Industrial Revolution during the first half of the 19th century brought to light a record of increasing differences from modern forms with increasing depth. Those examining this evidence were Creationists, at least as the term would be understood at the time, and they concluded that evolution had occurred, though they didn't know how. It wasn't until Darwin that a workable mechanism was proposed.
The implications about multi-cellular life derive from just an examination of the fossil record. As you peer further and further back in the fossil record life becomes more and more primitive. At some point we cease finding mammals, then we cease finding reptiles and amphibians, then we cease finding any land animals at all, then we find no jawed fishes, then no fishes, then no vertebrae, then no multicelluar life, then no life at all.
So if evolution is the theory for how species change over time, if evolution is the explanatory framework for how dog-like creatures became horses or how hippo-like creatures became whales, then it must also be the explanation for how uni-cellular life became multi-cellular life. We accept this because we are looking at things in an evolutionary framework for which there is much evidence, not because there is detailed evidence for how this particular transformation, indeed any transformation, took place.
If you require a theory to explain everything before you accept it then no theories will ever meet your criteria. Physics challenges and perhaps even exceeds evolution in presenting us with unfathomable mysteries, so you may as well include physics in the conspiracy.
--Percy

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