Creationism IS a 'Cult'ural Movement!

I think that for the purposes of this thread the class of anti-evolution arguments being discussed are those that can be shown to be demonstrably false yet still used by a subset of anti-evolutionists who all just happen to be fundamentalists christians. I am sure there are a number of conservative christians who would take slight to your assuming that anyone would take the anti-evolution argument and correlate it with conservatism.The point is that there are still people who DO USE the moondust argument and they almost exclusivly use it from the pulpit or equivalent. There are people who still believe and preach that the earth is 6000 years old. There are people who believe and preach that a worldwide flood is responsible for all the geologic features on Earth.All of these ideas ARE based on ignorance because given enough factual knowledge it is child's play to demonstrate that they are false.What is worse, these people want every child in the USA to be forced to learn about these beliefs as if they WERE actually valid.

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Of course, biblical creationists are committed to belief in God's written Word, the Bible, which forbids bearing false witness; --AIG (lest they forget)

You missed the main thrust of my post. Even if creationists were just propogating the ignorant and incorrect arguments against evolution and an old earth from the pulpit, they are still ignorant and incorrect arguments.No amount of special pleading or banging the Bible is going to change the fact that the earth is old, the fact that there has never been a world wide flood, and the fact of the nested heirarchies of life.The only people who have problems with these facts are fundamentalist christians. That the are ALSO trying to make this a public education and a definition of science issue is the only real controversy.I doubt you would object to a judge disallowing the teaching of holocaust denial in history class other than to say there are ignorant people who deny the holocaust. I doubt you would object to school boards rejecting the inclusion of timecube theory in science class. Why do you object to people voting or ruling on excluding nonsense from school.Sure parents should have their right to educate their children how they want to. They can choose to homeschool their children. If parent want to teach their kids that math and philosophy are the tools of the devil they can. If they want to perform the child abuse that it is to teach their children that the myth of a world wide flood then that is their right in this country. Just don't expect the rest of us to feel ashamed that intelligent people want to keep nonsense out of general education.

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Of course, biblical creationists are committed to belief in God's written Word, the Bible, which forbids bearing false witness; --AIG (lest they forget)

Forget about the judges then. Judgement is just an extension of the people deciding to make an effort to eliminate nonsense from their education system. What about the voting population, the school boards, and the curriculium boards? Many of these have taken up the torch to exclude the nonsense that is "Scientific" Creationism from schools. They have similary excluded a host of other things. Answer the question, what is the problem with people choosing to exclude nonsense from classroom? Do you believe that all ideas have equal merit and should be continually examined?Also, why should we not consider a movement, entirely motivated by dogma to the exclusion of all other ideas, a cult?

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Of course, biblical creationists are committed to belief in God's written Word, the Bible, which forbids bearing false witness; --AIG (lest they forget)

Why don't you join one of the specific threads about evolution or geology if you think these ideas are bunk. If you want to talk about the specifics of why evolution is a valid scientific theory then any number of threads a a great place to start.If you want to help nemesis_juggernaut in the Great Debate thread he seemingly has abandoned then dive in.You seemingly want specifics and the specifics are there in the appropriate threads. I think a lot of evolutionists in this thread have been reluctant to drag this thread off topic to honor some of your more broad requests. If you take it to the right venue, you may get what you want and we all can have fun in a good debate at the same time.This topic is more of a meta-issue about the controversy than anything. Lets get specific if you want to.

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Of course, biblical creationists are committed to belief in God's written Word, the Bible, which forbids bearing false witness; --AIG (lest they forget)

what about Message 146 ?

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Of course, biblical creationists are committed to belief in God's written Word, the Bible, which forbids bearing false witness; --AIG (lest they forget)