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John
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Message 26 of 40 (37833)
04-24-2003 11:08 AM
Reply to: Message 23 by booboocruise
04-24-2003 4:49 AM


Re: Legitimate creation arguments...
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Well, then, why CAN'T you prove evolution--because that would PROVE the Bible is lying.
It is as proven as anything can be, but you ignore and continue to ignore the evidence in favor of the lies spread by your creation science heroes. As long as you accept their lies, the truth cannot be proven to you.
That last phrase about the Bible is quite diagnostic of the state of your brain.
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Why CANT you prove the earth is billions of years old?
All of the evidence-- ALL OF IT-- puts the Earth at billions of years old, but you ignore this evidence. If you are content to ignore all that which contradicts your beliefs and accept only what ad hoc arguments fit your bill then there is nothing that can be done. You will die in your willful ignorance. Produce an argument that has not been refuted a hundred times. See, in science, when an argument is refuted a hundred times by as many peers, that argument is dropped.
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Why CANT YOU prove Jesus was lying?
We don't even know what Jesus said, but only what a few people who never met him, and who were living long after his death, say he said.
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Why CANT you prove that stars can form?
hmmm... you aren't terribly up to date in astronomy are you? There are good models for stellar formation and those models match the observations.
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Why CANT you prove Hovind isn't a real doctor?
The degree is from Patriot University. It is not an accredited school. The end.
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Why CANT you prove we evolved, or are still evolving
We can prove, as per the scientific definition, that we evolved but you ignore the evidence. Evolution has been observed countless times. You have been given links to such evidence and if you read much of the forums on evolution you'll find many more links. But you'll ignore those too.
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the variations in modern species might just be the result of radiation from the sun following Noah's Flood
You have got to be joking!!! Hyper-evolution due to exposure to the Sun's radiation which began after a water canopy that never existed collapsed to cause a flood that never happened!!!! Talk about things that cannot be proven!!!
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Also, when you said that there is evidence against the Bible, I HAVE NEVER HEARD A BIGGER LIE!
There is evidence, and plenty of it, against many of the events in the Bible. It is no lie. The lies come from the Biblical apologists.
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In the book of Job (1400 B.C.) God asks Job about the 'springs of the sea.'
Where did the nomadic herding Isrealites get thier water? Ans: form springs. Where did the ocean get its water? Ans: From springs. Nothing here strikes me as profound. It doesn't even strike me as all that accurate, as much water in fact comes from rivers.
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Did you know that oceanic springs were not even discovered until 1977?
But you just said Job knew about them. Both statements can't be correct.
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The book of Isaiah (700 B.C.) mentions God 'stretching out the heavens.'
So does virtually every mythology on the planet.
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SO, the fact that we document the universe expanding could be proof for the Bible JUST AS easily as it could be proof for the Big Bang.
... or for any other mythology which uses this, or a similar, turn of phrase.
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The Book of Revelation (70 AD) mentions God sitting upon the 'circle of the earth.'
Circles aren't spheres.
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Did you know that most non-Christian and non-Jewish scientists in those days thought the world was flat, when the Bible knew it was round all along?
Did you know that it wasn't the Jews and Christians who discovered that the earth is a sphere? In the west, it was the Greeks and this was 3-4 years BC. The Christians suppressed the information for 1500 years or so.
What you've done is create a false distinction. Too be fair, you'd have to add that most Christian and Jewish scientists also thought the world was flat.
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John
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Message 30 of 40 (37851)
04-24-2003 12:43 PM
Reply to: Message 27 by booboocruise
04-24-2003 12:05 PM


Re: Legitimate creation arguments...
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Where is your evidence against the Bible?
Administration is hinting that the topic is getting off target. There are plenty of topics here concerning Biblical accuracy. I have participated in most of them. Choose one, but read the thread before posting. Perhaps start here:
EvC Forum: Using the Bible as fact...
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I'm not going to open up a creationist geology 101 course for you
Not necessary. There are plent of topics already open. Choose one.
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I have read BOTH sides of almost EVERY SINGLE argument about the origin of the earth--his book is more sound than you know.
You have given me no reason to believe that you are capable of understanding either side of the debate. Nor have you given me any indication that you understand what constitutes a 'sound' argument. Most, if not all of your arguments thus far have definitely not been sound. Yet you use them nonetheless? This makes me think you don't understand the concept.
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He has done up-to-date
LOL... a book written in 1992 isn't up to date, not in today's world. And radio-halo creationist arguments have been refuted a hundred times.
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I can take apart that crap from the atheist websites in a few minutes
Yet can't bother to respond to the many replies you got when you started a thread on just this topic? Curious....
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they only pay attention to what jumps out in front of them and not reading the WHOLE Bible.
Actually, you don't know this. You have no idea who has read what or how many times.
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Also, the Bible DID know the earth was a circle (again your speedy anti-booboo comments lack research).
Sure it did, but circles aren't spheres. I point you to:
EvC Forum: There you Go,YECs...biblical "evidence" of "flat earth beliefs"
And:
EvC Forum: A listing of the contradictions and errors in the bible.
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So how would a round object have FOUR corners?
hmmm... do you realize the contradiction here? The Earth is a circle and has four corners? This appears to be some sort of argument for a sphere instead of a flat disk, but it makes less sense to say a sphere has corners than it does to say a circle has them. There is an extra dimension of absurdity when you make the claim of spheres.
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John
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Message 32 of 40 (37878)
04-24-2003 2:32 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by Coragyps
04-24-2003 1:59 PM


Re: Legitimate creation arguments...
I believe you've hit upon something there!!!
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John
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Message 34 of 40 (37881)
04-24-2003 2:38 PM
Reply to: Message 33 by crashfrog
04-24-2003 2:37 PM


Re: Legitimate creation arguments...
Maybe that is why the fundie's protested that game so much?
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