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Message 50 of 94 (445606)
01-03-2008 2:18 AM
Reply to: Message 49 by Beretta
01-03-2008 1:42 AM


Re: Beginning presuppostions
Beretta
Where do you imagine the information for the genetic code came from?
Through the physics of the electromagnetic force and only different from the rusting of iron or the freezing of water in complexity of interaction between the atomic bonds of the elements present and the order of their interaction.

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Message 81 of 94 (445856)
01-04-2008 6:59 AM
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01-03-2008 8:56 AM


Re: Beginning presuppostions
LucyTheApe
A nail oxidizes because it obeys the 2nd law of thermodynamics. Life doesn’t.
Water turns to ice because it goes through a state change below a certain temperature. Life doesn’t.
Life does not disobey the second law of thermodynamics.

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Message 90 of 94 (446059)
01-04-2008 8:07 PM
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01-03-2008 7:18 AM


Re: Beginning presuppostions
Beretta
Genetic info is the 'software' of the organism. The 4-letter chemical alphabet of the DNA is translated into the 20 letter alphabet of the proteins.
This "info" is not like software in which a code is placed in order to produce a given result but as a consequence of the bonds formed through exchanging charges in complex forms as well as the exchange of heat in the environment present.
Hence we find upon investigation that carbon is structured in such a way that the bonds available allow for the processes of organic chemistry. The structure is just a matter of the number of available electron gaps in the valence shell of the carbon atom. In fact the simplest of the carbon organic molecules CH4 is something all humans are familiar especially on long elevator rides.
All other parts of the human body follow from these organic bonds. It is also why a fire is so devastating to flesh as the bonds are broken by this heat exchange overpowering the molecular bonds

"Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere."
Albert Einstein

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