Conclusion vs Presupposition

Well how about the uniformatarian principle being a presupposition leading to conclusions about the earth's age.

And we are presupposing time has to do with depth of find -uniformatarian assumption/presupposition. That means later as in presupposing time has to do with depth again.Perhaps the hard bodied types lived at a different level or their body type predisposed them to being buried higher or they tried to get away and failed a little later than the ones that were maybe already under the sand or the ground? What if the time presupposition has nothing to do with it but uniformatarian principles are being assumed to be fact. Assuming time again.

This is plain nonsense and/or fantasy. Many of the lifeforms were not mobile. They were anchored in position at the sediment/water interface. They are found were they are because thats where and when they lived.Care to go to the Uniformitarianism topic, and discuss what uniformitarianism actually is and isn't about? Read the earliest messages of that topic. That is where the good stuff is.Moose

Based on the assumption of uniformatarianism and thus burial depth indicating time.

But we know know that even 'simple' unicellular organisms are hugely complex so how did life start if none of it was ever simple. We suppose simple came together on its own and became more complex.
Presupposition.Right now we have bacteria, viruses and us and we all exist on the same planet at the same time so why do we assume simple preceded complex? Why must time have anything to do with it?Evolutionary Answer: because there is no higher intelligence to create life so simple must have occurred by natural processes and complex derived from that.
Presupposition

LucyTheApe Life does not disobey the second law of thermodynamics.

Look at the theory behind radioactive decay -loads of assumptions -one being that decay proceeds at a constant rate and always have.
suits the picture of evolution since it gives big dates BUT is it true?

So you propose a mechanism by which the rate of radioactive decay might significantly alter?This is so off topic. I'm sorry.

Or...that's where they were buried; when they lived depends on uniformatarian assumptions giving dates that we have no separate confirmation of. A fossil is dead and buried -it has no date. I'll have a look -thanks.

It has been proposed that it is a very real possibility and helium levels in zircon crystals seem to support this possibility, yes.

Nope. It too is a conclusion. We see evidence of certain events and features today. There are floods and fires and volcanoes and earthquakes and rivers and streams and rain and drought. We can see the results of such events. We know their signatures, and when we look around at the past, we see the same things.The conclusion then, not presupposition, is that the same processes were going on in the past that are going on today.

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Immigration has been a problem Since 1607!

Actually, no, not assuming much accept the assumption that bottom layers were there before the upper layers were laid down.Again, we are looking at conclusions. We conclude that the part under something was there before the upper part was created unless there are signs that the order has been changed through physical means.

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Immigration has been a problem Since 1607!

Yet again, those have been explained to you. Neither is a presupposition, both are conclusions.

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Immigration has been a problem Since 1607!

Once again, that is simply not true. It also is a conclusion, we can see radioactive decay going on in the past, both in the evidence from stars and sites here on earth such as Oklo in Gabon.Now so far you have not addressed any of the examples listed in Message 1 and each of your asserted suppositions has been shown to be a conclusion instead. Do you have anything related to the topic?

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Immigration has been a problem Since 1607!

Beretta This "info" is not like software in which a code is placed in order to produce a given result but as a consequence of the bonds formed through exchanging charges in complex forms as well as the exchange of heat in the environment present.
Hence we find upon investigation that carbon is structured in such a way that the bonds available allow for the processes of organic chemistry. The structure is just a matter of the number of available electron gaps in the valence shell of the carbon atom. In fact the simplest of the carbon organic molecules CH₄ is something all humans are familiar especially on long elevator rides.
All other parts of the human body follow from these organic bonds. It is also why a fire is so devastating to flesh as the bonds are broken by this heat exchange overpowering the molecular bonds

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"Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere."Albert Einstein