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Author Topic:   DarkStar's Collection of Quotations - Number 1
Asgara
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Message 57 of 173 (133055)
08-11-2004 11:10 PM
Reply to: Message 56 by DarkStar
08-11-2004 10:54 PM


It wasn't difficult to find an online copy of the Darwin/Gray letter of Sept 5, 1857.
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Here is the home page to the Darwin Correspondence Project
Page not found | Cambridge University Library

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Asgara
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Message 74 of 173 (134189)
08-15-2004 10:37 PM
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08-15-2004 8:00 PM


Well considering that none of the creationist sources that cite that quote have any information on WHEN that letter was written, I gave you one of his letters. I also posted a link to the Darwin Correspondence Project that is working on a database of all Darwin's known correspondence.
This link is to the page that lists the letters to and from Gray.
If you want to give me a better citation of the letter in question, I will have no problem finding it.

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Asgara
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Message 82 of 173 (134211)
08-15-2004 11:46 PM
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08-15-2004 11:38 PM


Personally, I believe that if no one can find where this quote comes from, then it DOESN'T stand anywhere.

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Asgara
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Message 85 of 173 (134221)
08-16-2004 12:18 AM
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08-15-2004 11:55 PM


The quote comes from a letter dated June 18, 1857, before Darwin discussed his theory with Gray in the later 1857 letter. The Talk Origins link you gave earlier discusses this
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The Darwin Correspondence Project gives basically this same information.
I know, neither gives the contents of the entire letter.
I do know that that pictures posted in your first post in regards to this quote are not of the letter the quote came from. The pictures posted were from the Harvard cite, discussing the Sept letter.
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