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lfen
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Message 130 of 141 (317267)
06-03-2006 4:39 PM
Reply to: Message 129 by Damouse
06-03-2006 3:04 PM


Re: Found it/ with a BUMP for ROBIN on the out of nothing argument
That was a fascinating article. Thanks for the link.
This is something that might have addressed a long debate in another thread where Robin Rohan had questions about something coming out of nothing:
Start, Guth says, by imagining nothing, a pure vacuum. Be careful. Don't imagine outer space without matter in it. Imagine no space at all and no matter at all. Good luck.
To the average person it might seem obvious that nothing can happen in nothing. But to a quantum physicist, nothing is, in fact, something. Quantum theory holds that probability, not absolutes, rules any physical system. It is impossible, even in principle, to predict the behavior of any single atom; all physicists can do is predict the average properties of a large collection of atoms. Quantum theory also holds that a vacuum, like atoms, is subject to quantum uncertainties. This means that things can materialize out of the vacuum, although they tend to vanish back into it quickly. While this phenomenon has never been observed directly, measurements of the electron's magnetic strength strongly imply that it is real and happening in the vacuum of space even now.
[jump much further along in the article to:]
This also is more than theory. Observations are consistent with the idea, and calculations totaling up all the matter and all the gravity in the observable universe indicate that the two values seem to precisely counterbalance. All matter plus all gravity equals zero. So the universe could come from nothing because it is, fundamentally, nothing.
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Aside to Robin: Does that fit with your nihilism or not?
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