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Damouse
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From: Brookfield, Wisconsin
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Message 128 of 141 (317240)
06-03-2006 3:01 PM
Reply to: Message 126 by trh373
05-29-2006 8:03 PM


Tr373 or Fake
I'd quote tr373's post, but just scroll up and read it.
The laws of Physics are an explination, NOT an absolute. That is the way the universe is, and the laws explain it. If you sit down and think about it(a physics scenario) long and hard enough, it will seem excrutiatingly obvious, and you could have come up with it. To use your example, physics is an if__then__ scenario.
And as to your assult on the big bang theory, i don't think you have the right to argue this pont. You are not in any way familiar with the theories or ideas that govern the BB. "Quanton theory holds that a vacuum is subject to quantum uncertainties. This means that at any time things can materialize and dissapear almost instantly. This has been observed indirectly" -Alan Guth, creator of the Inflation theory. The obvious proponent is the law of conservation of energy, of course. "The energy of matter is, however, positive while the energy of a gravitational field is negative. Therefor all matter plus all gravity in the observable universe equals zero. So the universe could come from nothing because it is, fundementally, nothing." There is much, MUCH more, but i can't quote it down. Ill see if i can find the article.
Intelligent design science is far more advanced than evolution science, but it isn't being taught due to fear of punishment by the government. This is absurd because science should be taught in a science class
ID is not a science, it is a created farce. If there was anything to teach, it would be tought. But instead its hearsay from 2000 years ago, not proveable. If you could teach id, what would you teach? bible, probably. There is no proof, no evidence, no observable fact that has anything to do with ID, so what are you going to teach? The theory of god, written by men? The laws of Creation?
And whats with the neurological rant? Way to be wrong. My father's a PhD Neurologist, buddy, i called him for this one. lets see which point were right... oh thats right, none. you say that a disconnection of a lobe causes a body to stop functioning, but is still cabale of it's base processes?! Its the other way around. The lobe, or even the entire brain, may die and the body can be kept alive for years.
All you have is unverifiable, unproven specualtion that can never and will never be proven.
Edited by Damouse, : Sp

-I believe in God, I just call it Nature
-One man with an imaginary friend is insane. a Million men with an imaginary friend is a religion.
-People must often be reminded that the bible did not arrive as a fax from heaven; it was written by men.

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Damouse
Member (Idle past 4933 days)
Posts: 215
From: Brookfield, Wisconsin
Joined: 12-18-2005


Message 129 of 141 (317241)
06-03-2006 3:04 PM
Reply to: Message 128 by Damouse
06-03-2006 3:01 PM


Found it
Here is the article in it's entirety that explains the Big Bang, supported by evidence. To quote Guth "We no longer have to rely on stories we were told when we were young."
Discover Financial Services

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Damouse
Member (Idle past 4933 days)
Posts: 215
From: Brookfield, Wisconsin
Joined: 12-18-2005


Message 132 of 141 (317339)
06-03-2006 7:19 PM
Reply to: Message 126 by trh373
05-29-2006 8:03 PM


forgot something
The reason intelligent design was never considered is becuase courts refused to hear the case about it because, oh no, it could mean that there is a God!
I Forgot something!
America is about 30% aetheist and "other". If we equate that with the courts, then they should be about the same if not all religious (religios people voted them in). Therefor, why would the courts NOT hear the case? Because it proves the god they believe in? Oh, thats right, because it has a lack of credible proof.
Edited by Damouse, : No reason given.

-I believe in God, I just call it Nature
-One man with an imaginary friend is insane. a Million men with an imaginary friend is a religion.
-People must often be reminded that the bible did not arrive as a fax from heaven; it was written by men.
-Religion is the opiate of the masses

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Damouse
Member (Idle past 4933 days)
Posts: 215
From: Brookfield, Wisconsin
Joined: 12-18-2005


Message 139 of 141 (318004)
06-05-2006 4:05 PM
Reply to: Message 137 by Rob
06-04-2006 4:47 PM


Re: Did the topic change to the difference between the animal kingdom and man?
If we are evolving, then it is really just a fight to the finish and the winner takes all. Survival of the fittest. But to suggest that it is 'wrong' to impose morality as many claim religion does, is itself an imposition of morality. The only difference is that one side of the debate actually knows what they're saying, and understands those implications.
I disagree that to restrict an imposition of morality is to impose morality in itself. The restriction being apparently told to the church not to teach a morality implies no morality.
Then you say Jesus declared, then Jesus answered. Schitzophrenia (sp)?
As to dancing to our DNA, i wouldn't describe it that way. Sure there are fundementals dictated by our DNA, but i believe that Society dictates our morals. An example: In the middle ages, kissing was a sign of extreme affection and madesty was at quite a high. Nowadays you have 8th graders going off and having pre-marital sex, and thats the norm. (maybe 8th graders is an exageration. High schoolers?) Society makes the morals and dictates whats acceptable.

-I believe in God, I just call it Nature
-One man with an imaginary friend is insane. a Million men with an imaginary friend is a religion.
-People must often be reminded that the bible did not arrive as a fax from heaven; it was written by men.
-Religion is the opiate of the masses

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