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Topic: Falsifying Creation
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trh373
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Message 106 of 141 (313327)
05-18-2006 8:00 PM
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I am curious why in this forum everyone seems to think that all of the animals were created at one single moment in time? The bible says animals were created on the 6th day, obviously day doesn't mean a 24 hour period. Rather due to the language it was written in, it just means a period of time. The animals were made at all sorts of times within this sixth day and therefore died at all sorts of times
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trh373
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Message 108 of 141 (313331)
05-18-2006 8:06 PM
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I am also curious as to how those who refute God's specific creation of mankind would explain man's "ability to 'know that they know'; the ability to seek truth for its own sake; moral sense and the appreciation of beauty." (reference http://dejnarde.ms11.net//creation.htm)
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trh373
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Message 110 of 141 (314022)
05-20-2006 9:58 PM
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I would find these responses to my questions to be of a greater value if they would answer the question with information, not just general opinionated statements without any information supporting it. Also the fact that humans have such things show that they cannot be simple effeciencies gained through evolution, but rather a human and only human gift given by God. Having a larger brain and more neurons has absolutly no reason to give humans the advanced thinking that they do. That my friend is why my question must be answered. To ignore answering would to be ignoring the fundamental distinction in humankind from the animal kingdom. I know the answer, but my answer is not evolution. I am simply curious as to what others who do not believe in God given gifts chose to accept as their reason for its existance.
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trh373
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Message 112 of 141 (314069)
05-21-2006 1:41 AM
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Reply to: Message 111 by nwr 05-21-2006 12:13 AM
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The question is broad, as to leave the question open to any imformation that people can explain their own beleifs or findings in scientific research.
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trh373
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Message 113 of 141 (314072)
05-21-2006 1:44 AM
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Reply to: Message 112 by trh373 05-21-2006 1:41 AM
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I would want to know because I want to know how others who disagree with God's creation of the human mind chose to justify what science cannot explain, or if have something that can explain it, to please share it with me. I am always open to new information. I have always just wondered this question to myself, and I would appreciate anyone's response who feels fit to respond.
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trh373
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Message 118 of 141 (314686)
05-23-2006 5:25 PM
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Reply to: Message 117 by Coragyps 05-22-2006 4:04 PM
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I am curious about how people explain human consciousness. I appreciate anyones ideas. If you look at a chimpanzee brain and a human one, you will realize that the only thing humans have over chimpanzees is pure quantity of brain mass, and things such as envy are very simple and not at all like questioning existance. Also what in the world was the speghetti thing about? I have no idea what that was getting at.
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trh373
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Message 123 of 141 (315865)
05-29-2006 2:07 AM
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I am not here to prove one or the other to people. I know that people are much to stubborn to believe a faith. The word faith is what makes it religious. The faith is what saves. I am not justifying creationism, I am simply looking for others point or view on the subject. If you really want proof of a creator of some kind, I give you the laws of physics. Besides those you have existance, and matter. Laws imply a law maker. Creations imply a creator. If something must physically exist, if must be created. Evolution is fine and dandy, but where did the single celled organism's environment come from. If you want to answer the big bang, then you must also realize that the big bang cannot make something from nothing, for it goes against the laws of nature. Also matter exists, and therefore must have been created since it could not make itself out of nothing. Thus the only thing that could make this realm with laws is something that does not have to follow the laws itself, aka a creator. Please feel free to point out any mistakes and make any comments
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trh373
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Message 126 of 141 (316086)
05-29-2006 8:03 PM
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The laws of physics are not human made, they are human discovered. They are absolutes. Also about the big bang, obviously the big band isn't eternal since there had to be a beginning, aka the bang. Anything with a begining by definition cannot be eternal. If you don't believe in the laws of physics being absolute, then you deny the very foundations of science. Obviously something that would have been created must first have created itself, and nothing in our realm of laws can do that. This means that there is a force outside of the laws of the universe. Also to the spagetti monster (sorry about the spelling), Intelligent design is very scientific. If you have read anything about it you would realize that it is nowhere near the scientific level of the figment of your imagination/hunger. The reason intelligent design was never considered is becuase courts refused to hear the case about it because, oh no, it could mean that there is a God! The science never says there is a God, but the science shows that there is, and may I enfore that the SCIENCE does it. Intelligent design science is far more advanced than evolution science, but it isn't being taught due to fear of punishment by the government. This is absurd because science should be taught in a science class, not the watered down theory that shares a fragmented view of existance. If you doubt the scientific relivance of Intelligent design, you are likely among many of the ingnorant people who refuse to listen to what it says. People fear this science because inside they fear the consequences that could arise from accepting that they may be consequences for their actions. Also about the neurology discussion, the human mind is mainly a set of if___, then____ responses. So generally a larger lobe allows more memory to be utilized at a faster pace. If the lobe is disconnected from the body, the ability to think is not nessicarily gone, it just does not connected to the information found in the brain. In otherwords the signal still sends, but the connections don't work. This simply means that although someone might not show brain activity, it does not mean they are not still capable of the base process. Obviously if the disconncection causes their body to no longer function, then there is no doubt you can lose these human exclusive gifts, but that was not the point.
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