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Author Topic:   Creationism/ID as Science
nator
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Message 116 of 249 (334397)
07-22-2006 8:29 PM
Reply to: Message 115 by inkorrekt
07-22-2006 6:09 PM


Re: Turn this around
quote:
The number of those Scientists who believe in Intelligent Design is growing. You may not like this. But, this is the fact.
Please demonstrate this fact.

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nator
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From: Ann Arbor
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Message 138 of 249 (344233)
08-28-2006 9:06 AM
Reply to: Message 136 by Hughes
08-28-2006 3:40 AM


Re: It is rhetoric not science
quote:
Saying something isn't designed *well* means you admit that it was in fact designed by some intelligence in the first place.
Weather "designed" this stone arch:
Is the weather "intelligent"?
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nator
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Message 198 of 249 (345540)
08-31-2006 8:16 PM
Reply to: Message 196 by Hughes
08-31-2006 7:42 PM


predictions
OK, hughes, if we are going to talk about ID as science, then we need to talk about predictions.
What predictions has ID made about what we should find in nature?
What were the results?

"Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends! Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!"
- Ned Flanders
"Question with boldness even the existence of God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear." - Thomas Jefferson

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nator
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Message 213 of 249 (345785)
09-01-2006 4:17 PM
Reply to: Message 210 by Hughes
09-01-2006 12:56 PM


Re: What about creationism/ID?
Nonsensse.
Of course scientific biological theories are falsifiable.
For example, if the morphological tree of life that had been constructed had been completely contradicted once the discovery of DNA and genetics came along, that would have been a major falsofication for the Biological Evolutionary concept of descent with modification.
The prediction of the ToE was that the morphological and genetic trees of life would pretty much match. They didn't HAVe to match, but they did. Thus, the ToE survived another potential falsification.
There are dozens of such survived potential falsifications.
Now, if you would like to discuss ID as science, I'd like to hear what predictions ID has made about the natural world, and what the results of the tests of those predictions were.
If you are saying, however, that ID makes no testable predictions, then it is uselss, and hardly scientific.
It is simply then a belief, or a philosopy, but it certainly shouldn't be considered a tool to further our understanding of nature.

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