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jar Member (Idle past 420 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
First, the Theory of Evolution has nothing to do with beginnings, either of Life or the Universe.
Before we go any further we need to deal with that issue. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 420 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Child, you are simply wrong. You are ignorant of what is in the Theory of Evolution.
The Theory of Evolution has nothing to do with the beginning of life or the universe. They are two entirely different areas of study. If you believe otherwise, provide supporting evidence. Until you have the basics it will be impossible for you to learn anything. Let's get this one settled and then we can go on. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 420 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
So far you have provided NO evidence, only rantings and assertions.
You say that the TOE is taught as also covering the origin of life and of the Universe. But you provided nothing except assertion, no support. Please provide evidence that the TOE addresses either the Origin of Lif or the Universe. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 420 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
I think it's critical for these discussions if they are to be at all fruitful, to at least recognize what the different sides of the argument and debate, and the different camps are saying. No, not really. The YECs are simply wrong. That is a FACT. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 420 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Gee, and I am supposed to think that is a logical and well-reasoned argument You are, of course, free to think anything you want. That has nothing to do with the fact that the YECs and classical creationists are simply wrong. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 420 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
There really can't be a debate on the Young Earth issue. That's settled. The earth is billions of years old. There can't be a debate on the validity of the Genesis Creation myth. It's wrong. It really is as simple as that.
People can believe anything they want. But there is no dispute over whether or not the earth is 6000 years old or billions of years old. That's not subject to belief, it's testable and quite frankly, settled. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 420 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
But Jar, you evidently were unaware that YEC's accept and believe in rapid speciation, correct? Sure. Like that matters. They are wrong! Speciation took billions of years to get where we are today. I've seen stars. I've seen the roots of mountains. I've seen beaches. I've see layers of reefs built up over hundreds of thousands of years. Young earth is a dead idea.
I suspect you probably do not know exactly what Genesis even says, but are reacting to your own or other's perception of Genesis. ROTFLMAO. I'm sorry but that is simply too funny. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 420 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Jar, your post is good evidence for how evolution is treated as more religious dogma than science. In what way? I base what I say on evidence, not belief or dogma. I've seen the evidence, collected fossils, seen the results of time, long, long time. I see the stars. Sorry, the evidence is in, the Earth is billions of years old, we are the result of hundreds of millions of years of speciation. If and when YECs or classic creationists can come up with some evidence they can join the discussion. They are always welcome to come here and give it a try. So far, none have ever brought anything to the table. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 420 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
You said:
You mentioned it was not even necessary to understand what your critics or other sides claim in an argument, and yet you feel fully justified in rejecting their arguments. Please point out where I said that or retract the claim. You are using classic creationist, Fundie Christian tactics of distorting what someone says. That will not be tolerated here. What I said was that when an idea or belief is wrong, simply wrong, there is no point in discussing it. The Young Earth model is wrong. Period.
Take your comment on Genesis. How can you be sure it is wrong when you do not even comprehend what it says? Another attempt to distort my position and what I have said. Please support your assertion by providing evidence that I do not comprehend what Genesis says. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 420 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
I can support the question of the YEC model being testable.
For example:
So the YEC model is certainly testable, has been tested and has been falsified. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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