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Author Topic:   Evolution is a Religious Issue
ringo
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Message 176 of 303 (212860)
05-31-2005 2:15 PM
Reply to: Message 171 by randman
05-31-2005 2:14 AM


Re: I probably should not post this.
randman writes:
I don't believe most evolutionists I have seen that argue for evolution in print and on the web do that.
Don't confuse evolutionists on the web with the scienitists who do the science. While there are practising biologists on this board, many of the "evolutionists" here are interested and informed lay people.
Nobody on this board is practising science when they talk about the evidence for evolution. They are describing it.
The people who do the science are not necessarily the most adept at describing science. Hence the occaisional gaffe, such as use of the word "proof".
And if I may digress slightly, the word "proof" can also be used in the sense of "tested". For example, an 80-proof liquor has been tested for an alcohol content of 40%. So, if it is occaisionally said that evolution is "proven", that can also mean that it has been "tested".

People who think they have all the answers usually don't understand the questions.

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ringo
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Message 180 of 303 (212889)
05-31-2005 5:17 PM
Reply to: Message 178 by randman
05-31-2005 4:41 PM


Re: Biological Evolution is only a religious issue for religious people
randman writes:
I think "proved beyond all reasonable doubt" is not a gaffe, but an indication of the mind-set of evolutionists, which is why they are so hostile to even the concept of ID.
If you take "proved" in the sense of "tested", as I said, then evolution certainly is tested beyond all reasonable doubt.
As for hostility, the only hostility that I see is against evolution.
ID remains only a concept until it actually does some science.

People who think they have all the answers usually don't understand the questions.

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ringo
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Message 190 of 303 (212923)
05-31-2005 8:19 PM
Reply to: Message 189 by randman
05-31-2005 8:15 PM


randman writes:
For example, there is no empirical evidence the physical laws of the universe have remained the same.
Not so. The speed of light, for instance, has been measured over time and found to be constant.

People who think they have all the answers usually don't understand the questions.

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