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Author Topic:   Evolution: Science, Pseudo-Science, or Both?
RAZD
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Message 103 of 198 (201926)
04-24-2005 7:43 PM
Reply to: Message 102 by crashfrog
04-24-2005 7:34 PM


clones?
you mean a {chimp\human} pseudo-clone? (as "dolly" was a pseudo-clone)
the mitochondial dna would still be chimp: do we know enough about the reproductive process of embyio to fetus to think this will work? is a chimp pelvic girdle big enough for a human head? or would C-section be required.

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Message 105 of 198 (201943)
04-24-2005 9:11 PM
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04-24-2005 9:02 PM


On a scientific level, it would essentially prove that the greater claims of the theory of evoltion are a fact.
you would not get the "it just shows common design" issue settled

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RAZD
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Message 107 of 198 (201955)
04-24-2005 9:29 PM
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04-24-2005 9:21 PM


Creationists of various persuasions (such as YEC, OE, and Gap theorists) likewise say that the patterns in life displays a "common design" by some "intelligent designer" due to whatever ad hoc theory is dreamed up next.
precisely
they would say that the fact that you can mix and match parts of humans and chimps and end up with {human\chimp\something else} just proves the common design and disproves evolution because you don't see this happening on it's own.
it's the {closed mind theory of everything} ... or CMToE
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RAZD
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Message 110 of 198 (201990)
04-24-2005 11:07 PM
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04-24-2005 9:58 PM


If you're saying that no ammount of evidence will persuade "some" people, then I agree with you. For some I'm sure that no amount of evidence will convince them.
yep. you're dealing with the 20-60-20 problem: 20% will be stubborn about having to change no matter how much it is explained; 20% will actively seek change to improve things, and 60% won't care.

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Message 114 of 198 (202100)
04-25-2005 7:22 AM
Reply to: Message 111 by Mr. Ex Nihilo
04-24-2005 11:56 PM


a verifiable experiment on forced evolution? done.
or one specifically on hominids?

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